Posted on Aug 24, 2019
What advice do you have for someone who will be going through an upcoming QMP board?
18K
6
6
2
2
0
I’m asking for my husband. He’s been a SSG for a little over a year now. He’s currently stationed in Korea but we’re supposed to PCS in October. Yesterday he was told that he was going to be on an upcoming QMP board. It’s because of a Field Grade article 15 that he received back in December for being out past curfew. He was escorting another soldier back to their barracks and the MPs got both of them. Forgive me, I’m bad with military lingo but the reason his article 15 was so high was because of the type of unit he’s in. There wasn’t an option for a company grade article 15. Anyways, the Commander didn’t give him a punishment but it stayed on record. My husband has never been in any kind of trouble. No failed pt tests, no article 15s, nothing. He’s currently still receiving rewards from both the Air-Force and Army for his time at the BCD. He just received an excellent NCOER and a few of his higher ups have already been reaching out to him offering to write recommendations. I’m reaching out to attorneys but I need any and ALL advice I can get for him from people who have experienced or witnessed this process first hand. Thank you.
Posted >1 y ago
Responses: 3
First, there are three things you must know.
1. Once your spouse is notified for QMP, they are stabilized till the process is over. He won't be able to PCS in October without an exception.
2. Strong letters of recommendation from Commanders (preferably O5 and above) and CSMs are his strongest defense.
3. Medical board overrules QMP. If he's selected for separation he receives half separation pay. If he is broken and referred to MEB then he receives a much higher medical separation or medical retirement.
Now for the rest...
Attorneys can't help, QMP is a purely administrative procedure, not a legal or punitive one. That means JAG has no part or influence in it. Once the Article 15 was filed it automatically triggered the QMP review. The part where an attorney could have helped, the UCMJ appeal, has passed once it's filed in his records.
QMP is a review, it's not a separation. However, the review has approximately a 75% separation rate. It's purpose is to review Senior NCOs who've done something demonstrating poor character or performance, but not severe enough for separation. The board evaluates the whole career and determines whether to retain or separate the Soldier. In my experience of notifying Soldiers for QMP, the ones who are separated are DUIs, Relief for Cause evaluations, failing NCOES, or character defects. Character defects would be sexual harassment, integrity violation, racist/sexist comments, etc. The people who are retained are the ones who have strong letters of recommendation from commanders and CSM's.
If your spouse is separated, his new ETS date will be less than a year from now. He will receive an honorable discharge and retain all benefits. The only difference is that his reentry code will prevent him from rejoining active duty. Technically, in principle he could join the reserves, but I've never seen anyone receive a waiver for that.
If he is separated at less than 18 years, he will receive half separation pay. If it's over 18 he will be separated and transferred into the reserves and at the 20 years be separated for retirement. Then he'll draw reserve retirement at 60 or so. If he has over 18 years at notification he'll stay on active duty until 20 years for retirement.
From your husband's case, it sounds like he will be retained as long as he manages to get a few letters of recommendation. The board isn't overly critical. It's a group of CSMs who review the whole soldier's career and performance. They rely heavily on the recommendations of the Soldiers commanders, which is why negative NCOER are so detrimental.
1. Once your spouse is notified for QMP, they are stabilized till the process is over. He won't be able to PCS in October without an exception.
2. Strong letters of recommendation from Commanders (preferably O5 and above) and CSMs are his strongest defense.
3. Medical board overrules QMP. If he's selected for separation he receives half separation pay. If he is broken and referred to MEB then he receives a much higher medical separation or medical retirement.
Now for the rest...
Attorneys can't help, QMP is a purely administrative procedure, not a legal or punitive one. That means JAG has no part or influence in it. Once the Article 15 was filed it automatically triggered the QMP review. The part where an attorney could have helped, the UCMJ appeal, has passed once it's filed in his records.
QMP is a review, it's not a separation. However, the review has approximately a 75% separation rate. It's purpose is to review Senior NCOs who've done something demonstrating poor character or performance, but not severe enough for separation. The board evaluates the whole career and determines whether to retain or separate the Soldier. In my experience of notifying Soldiers for QMP, the ones who are separated are DUIs, Relief for Cause evaluations, failing NCOES, or character defects. Character defects would be sexual harassment, integrity violation, racist/sexist comments, etc. The people who are retained are the ones who have strong letters of recommendation from commanders and CSM's.
If your spouse is separated, his new ETS date will be less than a year from now. He will receive an honorable discharge and retain all benefits. The only difference is that his reentry code will prevent him from rejoining active duty. Technically, in principle he could join the reserves, but I've never seen anyone receive a waiver for that.
If he is separated at less than 18 years, he will receive half separation pay. If it's over 18 he will be separated and transferred into the reserves and at the 20 years be separated for retirement. Then he'll draw reserve retirement at 60 or so. If he has over 18 years at notification he'll stay on active duty until 20 years for retirement.
From your husband's case, it sounds like he will be retained as long as he manages to get a few letters of recommendation. The board isn't overly critical. It's a group of CSMs who review the whole soldier's career and performance. They rely heavily on the recommendations of the Soldiers commanders, which is why negative NCOER are so detrimental.
(2)
(0)
Brooke Harris
Not yet. He found out on a Friday night so he’s going to go first thing Monday after he meets with his commander.
(1)
(0)
You need to correct your first name if you want to post on here. We don't allow civilian members to post using initials to mask their names. If members with military accounts do that, they may lose their verified status and have their accounts locked until they correct it.
http://support.rallypoint.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1311927-how-do-i-change-my-name-?b_id=4766
http://support.rallypoint.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1311927-how-do-i-change-my-name-?b_id=4766
NOTE:RallyPoint requires our members to use their real names. Aliases, initials, joint names, email addresses, business...
(0)
(0)
Read This Next