Posted on Mar 9, 2021
what are my options if i cant take my family to korea and was denied CSP?
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reenlisted for korea for 2 years for the sole purpose of taking my family with me. retention NCO was most likely not tracking that camp casey is dependent restricted when i realized it was to late.im pretty much screwed what are my options? just to delay my orders and get in my current station? can i fight this so i may take my family with me or get my station switched from casey to a camp that allows dependents?
Camp Humphreys
Camp Casey
Re-enlistment
HRC
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Did you actually submit for command sponsorship or are you just assuming that?
Theres no reenlistment for two years for Korea. So did you request Korea and reenlist for it or did you come on assignment to Korea and then reenlist?
All of Korea is a dependent restricted tour, not just Casey.
Theres no reenlistment for two years for Korea. So did you request Korea and reenlist for it or did you come on assignment to Korea and then reenlist?
All of Korea is a dependent restricted tour, not just Casey.
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I requested reenslistment for korea for 2 years. I submitted command sponsorship and got denied. I received a memo stating the reason why CSP got disapproved is due to to camp casey being area 1 which is dependent restricted
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SPC (Join to see) well, Korea itself is a dependent restricted tour. You can only reenlist for Korea, not Casey, so you are where the Army was able to place you. Because it's a dependent restricted tour, you're not supposed to be able to renegotiate your contract if your command sponsorship is denied. It's Command Sponsorship, not CSP, that's a different Army program so when you're requesting a renegotiation make sure you are using the correct term.
So, you go back to your Career Counselor and request a Renegotiation. They'll tell you that you aren't allowed to renegotiate for that reason, and they are correct. However, you can plead ignorance and maybe the HRC gods will have pity on your soul. If they tell you that they won't renegotiate then tell them "It is HRC who approves or denies it, please send the request". 50/50 it still gets denied. At that point you can delete your assignment through your Career Counselor
So, you go back to your Career Counselor and request a Renegotiation. They'll tell you that you aren't allowed to renegotiate for that reason, and they are correct. However, you can plead ignorance and maybe the HRC gods will have pity on your soul. If they tell you that they won't renegotiate then tell them "It is HRC who approves or denies it, please send the request". 50/50 it still gets denied. At that point you can delete your assignment through your Career Counselor
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I appreciate your advice sfc I will do this. And honestly I had no clue that camps in Korea were dependent restricted. I simply went to retention and told her I wanted to bring my family with me to korea she said no problem and signed me up for casey. I feel like most of it is her fault the fact being that she should of known the restrictions.but partly mine from not doing my personal research
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SPC (Join to see) it is 100% your fault, you go to a Career Counselor and day you want to reenlist for a place and that's where they're sending you. I can't imagine meeting a SPC in the Army who doesn't know that Korea is dependent restricted and no Career Counselor could be expected to encounter a Soldier who doesn't know that. You are allowed to bring your family to Korea and like every OCONUS tour, you have to get Command Sponsorship approved to bring them, so your CC didn't mislead you.
Because Command Sponsorship is never guaranteed and gets denied pretty frequently, you're going to use that as a justification to request a renegotiation. If you're asked to write a memo about why you're requesting a renegotiation, avoid blaming your CC because HRCs response will be that you signed a statement saying that you've read the required option statement about the assignment in DA Pam 601-280
Because Command Sponsorship is never guaranteed and gets denied pretty frequently, you're going to use that as a justification to request a renegotiation. If you're asked to write a memo about why you're requesting a renegotiation, avoid blaming your CC because HRCs response will be that you signed a statement saying that you've read the required option statement about the assignment in DA Pam 601-280
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If you don't get command sponsorship, it's like my dad told me. You always have a choice. You can do it and like it or you can do it and not like it. The choice is yours.
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I was stationed at Camp Hovey 20 some years ago (a mile or two outside Casey's back gate) and back then I really wouldn't consider Casey or Hovey "Family friendly", can't imagine it's much better now. Small PX, no on-post family housing, limited local medical services, schools etc. The other consideration is your MOS and gaining unit. Casey and Hovey are very near the border, you may be spending a lot of time deployed.
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I'm at Hovey right now. I will say it's still relatively similar. Small shopette on Hovey that's maybe the size of the troop store in the RUBA at NTC, and the Casey PX is maybe half the size or less of the other PXs I've seen. The commissary is pretty well stocked, however.
I don't know anyone here other than officers or senior NCOs who brought dependents.
I don't know anyone here other than officers or senior NCOs who brought dependents.
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SFC Robert Falco
When I was there I think the BDE CDR (COL. Bolger) and the BN. CDR had wives there and traveled to Seoul on the weekends to see them.
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This is a tricky one and your situation is definitely painful for the family. What is your report date and how big is your family? What advice has your current leadership provided? Have you called or emailed your branch? They might help you but Korea is a priority assignment. Is your wife okay? It could be a blessing in disguise. You might could see if know someone else who’d go in your place. How many children do you have? You’re wife could go spend a year with her family in her hometown. You can use it as an opportunity to save money... Lastly, refuse to go but that is the least favorable option. There may be more that I am unaware of? Unaccompanied means one year.
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You are going to Korea for two years without your family if you really are going to Camp Casey. If some how you get Humphreys instead you can ask to bring your family. Since you can go unaccompanied your family can stay where you put them on your orders, whether that be where you stationed at now or your family home.
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I'm already on orders to camp casey. So my only option is to go or deny assignment?
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This information is a bit dated, so take it for what it is... (I left Korea in 2016), but I had met people before that worked in Area I and had their families housed in Area II. They either made the commute daily or were given a barracks room on Camp Casey during the week and could go be with their families on the weekend. Now, Area II is also mostly closed now, so that definitely affects things. If you are able to get your family housed in Area III then you would certainly only be able to see them on the weekends because it's too far of a commute to do daily. Unfortunately, I have no idea how you would actually go about requesting this, so I'm not sure if this really helps. I just know that I've seen it happen before.
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