Posted on Mar 14, 2018
What are my options if I fail to graduate prior to turning 31 on scholarship in ROTC?
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"For an ROTC scholarship, you cannot turn 31 by the end of the year in which you graduate/commission. This is Federal law and non-waiverable. For non-scholarship cadets, you must under age 39 on the day you commission. Cadets graduating between 35 and 39 years will require a waiver from the ROTC brigade commander."
I am fairly confident I will graduate on time with my engineering degree. I am 28, need roughly 112 more college credits out of 220 overall, and have been averaging around 18 to 20 credits a quarter including summers. Considering the courses are fairly rigorous, I am concerned with the potential shift of my graduation date if I fail a class. If I miss my commission date can I repay the scholarship, finish my degree, and commission by age 34? Or am I required to go enlisted? If I am required to go enlisted, does this mean I cannot finish my degree, and prevent me from going through OCS? My number one priority is commissioning as an Officer, so I want to make sure I have all my bases covered. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
I am fairly confident I will graduate on time with my engineering degree. I am 28, need roughly 112 more college credits out of 220 overall, and have been averaging around 18 to 20 credits a quarter including summers. Considering the courses are fairly rigorous, I am concerned with the potential shift of my graduation date if I fail a class. If I miss my commission date can I repay the scholarship, finish my degree, and commission by age 34? Or am I required to go enlisted? If I am required to go enlisted, does this mean I cannot finish my degree, and prevent me from going through OCS? My number one priority is commissioning as an Officer, so I want to make sure I have all my bases covered. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Posted 7 y ago
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1LT (Join to see) Having backup plans in place is usually a good idea, except when it is not. In your case, study hard and do not fail any courses. The military expects officers to adapt and overcome all challenges.
A good leadership book is "Failure is Not an Option" by Gene Kranz
A good leadership book is "Failure is Not an Option" by Gene Kranz
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Roger SGT Theodore. I have been looking for good leadership books so I will definitely check it out. Thank you.
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Everything can be waived. Unless you are a dirt bag or just a real a$$ there should be no problem getting support from the PMS. But, if you have a bunch of other issues it will likely be a hard road to travel.
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Roger sir. Thank you. I talked to the ROTC enrollment officer and he confidently told me I shouldn't have any problems and that there is always a ways to make it happen.
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One thing you left out that'd help to kmow, which might perhaps not ne apparent, is, what major are you, electrical, mechanical, aero, ent sci, also what GPA, if you can say, that'd also ne germane to know, certainly. I realize you want Army, however, anyone, in any commissioning program can at least ask to he allowed to commission in another service, granted, you might ne on an Army ROTC scholarship, as I was, a 3 yr, if which I finished 2, before going USAF OTS instead, however, I've known of such things being done. When one of my brothers was at USMMA Kings Point, it's run as an NROTC program, numerous grads went Army, USAF, USCG, even NOAA Commissioned Corps. Further, the USPHS Commissioned Corps, which is fully active duty, no less than any other service, uses engineers, and allows considerably greater age flexibility typically than the other svcs. Look at the USPHS COSTEP, Jr and Sr, the USPHS analogue to ROTC. Furher, USCG direct commissions engineers you might have to go through an OIS, an indoc program, that is, or you might have to go full USCG OCS, however, you might at least ask. Further, the Army direct commission cyber program could, I should think, use you as a CS, or IT grad, depending on tour level of CS/IT coursework exposure, plus, there's also going technical warrant for Army, you dont necessarily need to go commissioned, I know you want to, I get that, however, there'be been numerous websites I've seen on warrant shortages in Army, esp for technical fields, or possibly flight, if you'd want to try for rotary wing. USCG has its MARGRAD program for grads of the maritime colleges, that afford such grads, even if they weren't NRITC, a chance to opt to go USCG, going through I think, an OIS. Give me tour thoughts, and really elaborate, list your actual technical course titles, all of them, grades and/or GPA if you want, it'd help me juspdge, do a complete detailed bio sketch, list hobbies, reading, interests motivations, ambitions, what specific area of engineering would you want, especially. Further, I've been where youre going, I've done it all, I was USAF elec engr 4 full yrs, I'll send you some sites you might look at that could be of use to you, get as technical as you want, have you published? Do you want to? What masters would you want, as from your very first day, aside from PME coursework, you're going to be instantly expected to get a masters. However, USPHS uses bach level engrs, you could be assigned to FDA, CDC, NIH, specifically at NIH, look at NIBIB the bioengineering institute, also, USPHS is also able to task to the conventional svcs in sevl clinical fields, I think I once saw an instance of a USPHS engr doing a tour with Army overseas, he got a serious award, I'd read of it, tell me what you think, I know those thoughts might not ne what you'd considered, however, even if you went warrantz I knew an Army rotary wing pilot who got his bach in aeronautics, then Army release him early so USCG could pick him up for rotary wing, where he finished his 20, he'd been Armu enlisted before going Army warrant I'd be most eager for your thoughts, and to hear more, tour circumstances interest me, please go into considerably greater detail if you can, OK?
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Thank you Captain Goodman for your detailed advice. I have an 8 year commitment to the Army, as I am contracted, non-prior service. A bit about me - I am a Journeyman plumber going back to school for mechanical engineering with a focus in HVAC and fluids. A goal of mine is to become a part of the Army Corps of Engineers as a vertical engineer. I have plenty of trades experience and licensing and mechanical engineering was a logical next step. As far as hobbies go I enjoy Violin, Guitar, biking, hiking. Ironically, I have been interested in getting my private pilot license a while now so Aviation does interest me. I have a 3.5 GPA and currently getting into classes such as Dynamics, Fluids, Mechanics and Materials. Eventually I will be doing advanced Fluids and HVAC and the like. A Master's in Engineering is what I will eventually pursue down the road. As far as reading goes, I am a big fan of military history. It's good to know there are other options. I can give more detail later, but I have to get to class.
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