Posted on Aug 10, 2015
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I am slotted to go to WLC next summer and I hear some horror stories of people getting booted before graduation for failing the Land Navigation. I didn't do so good during basic many moons ago and I want to get a head start so that I can be prepared.
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SFC Small Group Leader
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Ask someone in your unit to help you out, try taking a little extra time to get in that extra training you'll need.

Remember WLC operates on the "crawl, walk, run" method. Give your SGLs the opportunity to train you while you're there. Pay attention especially in areas you know you're weak in. Don't be afraid to ask for the help. That's what they're there for! Good luck!
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CSM Michael Salfai
CSM Michael Salfai
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This is good advice. My daughter, an MP, went through the WLC about a year ago. She was quite worried about the Land Nav requirement but she aced it. Review the basics and work with your SGLs. Ask for extra help if you need it and offer help to your fellow Soldiers who are having problems. You should have no problem. Take the word of an old CSM on this.
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SSG Drew Cook
SSG Drew Cook
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This. A solid leader/unit will go out of his or her way to ensure you succeed. It's their reputation on the line, and that goes up the chain as well.
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LTC Psychological Operations
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Training in the areas you are weak in. Find other Soldiers that are proficient in Land Nav, learn from them. Test your abilities as you get better. Reading maps, terrain features, etc.. WLC has been by far the best basic leadership course I have ever experienced.
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SPC Mitchell Keatley
SPC Mitchell Keatley
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You have to Do It To Learn It Fully...Back in my day....B Co 2/505 PIR....it was mandatory at times that we met up on our days off to go do a Saturday jump with equipment... and hit the DZ and then Land Nav..... Back with many waypoints to Hit on the mission Home... we made everyone ...UNDERSTAND IT AND PERFORMNIT... NOT GUESS...SOMETIMES WE WOULD BE OUT FOR 20...30 HRS.... before some Understood fully.. and on Your Time...it seemed the we...as individuals learned more at a squad level. .. learn the Factors first... true North.... map North
... reading and understanding... the next thing to do...in Order... then compas and map time for each... with their mind on being in charge of the mission... I found so many times that troops not only had a bad attitude about learning... but also just "didnt care"..... so with that in mind... motivation and controlled squad patrols work best to motivate that ONE GUY OR GUYS TO CHANGE THEM... PUT THEM IN CHARGE AND SHOW THE WAY TO THE REST...AND THEN LET THEM DO IT UNTILL THEY GET IT RIGHT...
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CPL Richard Flagg
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The best advice I can give for Land Nav at WLC is to learn to land navigate in a heavily wooded area. I learned to Land Nav down in the jungles of Panama; where I shot azimuths from tree to tree; sure it may sound tedious, but as long as you know your pace count and keep track of distance with a cord of 550 cord like I did things should work out for you.

Best of luck and practice if you need to before attending the course is the best advice I can give you.
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SSG(P) Transportation Management Coordinator
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Good advice also use terrain association (land marks like roads and streams) to help keep you on track. That's what I did and it helped a lot.
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SSgt Carpenter
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WLC is a "made to succeed" type course. I went through as a brand new SPC, so I was unfamiliar with much of the content other than completion of SSD1. I still did fine. As your SGLs will remind you, WLC teaches the same material you learn in SSD1.
You will get plenty of time to learn and refresh tasks at WLC, however the more prepared you are the easier of course, it will be.
Download a copy of FM 3-25.26 which is the FM on land nav. There will be a couple chapters in there that will be useful to you. Pay attention to your instructors, and don't be afraid to ask them, and ask your classmates for help.
As I mentioned before, despite the bad rap, WLC is made to set you up for success. I went through WLC with a soldier who was a dentists assistant by MOS. I know she hadn't done land nav since basic. I helped her study the material, and explained a few questions that she had, when we went out on the course, she found all her points, and beat half students or more back. Land Nav is terrifying to many people, and takes a lot of practice to get really good at; however, you don't need to be an expert to pass WLC. You simply need to know how it works, and find your points on a course. It will boost your confidence when you succeed!
If you set your sights on excelling at WLC rather than just passing, I would recommend that you get a copy of the Ranger handbook, and familiarize yourself with the TLPs, opords, and principles of patrol. Practice the preparation drills for PRT from FM 7-22, performing the exercises exactly as they are in the book, and brush up on D and C. I believe that if I had done that before I went, I could have made commandants list, instead of just graduating.
Of course, don't forget to be good on PT, and body weight. The SGLs aren't unfair, they simply grade to standard. Units fail to set their soldiers up for success by fudging the standard.
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SGT William Howell
SGT William Howell
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SSgt (Join to see) You said everything I could have. Soldiers that seem to struggle had issues with TLPs, how to make op orders, and basic combat skills. I would encourage anybody that is going to memorize these things and have them in in your notebook. Be ready to teach classes and conduct PT formations. Best thing I can say is have a great attitude, it will get your far with the instructors.
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SGT Jonathon Caldwell
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Land Nav is only as hard as you make it. Take your time and plot your points good. Double or triple check your pace count to get it accurate. Go to your start point. In WLC its going to be given to you up front so your starting off in the right spot. Plot all of your points from your start point. Number each point as you plot them so you know what number point you are going to. After plotting draw your lines in the shortest route possible. Nobody says you have to go in order. Thats why you numbered them when plotting, to make sure you put the right point on your answer sheet. That way you are saving time by walking the shortest distance instead of back and forth across the course. The biggest thing is dont second guess yourself. If you come to the end of your pace count and nothing is there. Mark your spot good with something so you can come back to it. Then cloverleaf out from that point 25m at a time til you find a point. Write it down shoot your next azmuth and keep going. After you find that last point beeline back to the turn in point and be confident you are right and you know what youre doing. Like Sgt Brainard WLC is not meant for anyone to fail. Another big thing make sure you take your own compass from your unit. See if your armsroom or supply whoever is issueing it has a new one. All the loaners at WLC are just that loaners that nobody has taken care of and just get tossed around. A degree off over not so long of a distance puts you way off course. Hope this helps you. If you have any questions just reply back and ill do my best to explain so you fully understand. Good luck and youll do fine. Infantry Leads the Way. "FOLLOW ME"
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SSG Nick Tramontano
SSG Nick Tramontano
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Excellent point on the compass. You can get a lensatic compass in clothing sales or any military outlet. Spend a few extra bucks for a Tritium one.
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SGT James Allen
SGT James Allen
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I wish I would have read this before I went, but that was 20 something years ago. You're right, trusting yourself is key. I missed a point, and clover leafed around until I found one. It was correct. Also, when I got to one of my points, it was only about 20-30 meters away from another stake. I was a little worried about that one, but I didn't second guess myself and was right.
If I could add anything, it would be to pay attention to any impassable terrain when plotting your route. I just drew straight line between points without realizing that I would have to wade through a swamp. I had to work around it and it made it more difficult than it could have been. Also, know your pace count on all types of terrain. It can vary somewhat going uphill or downhill from flat ground. The stakes aren't that far apart but the more accurate you are, the better. It's like anything else in the Army; do what you're taught and you will pass with no problems.
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SSgt Carpenter
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From experience, if you bring your own compass it must be a Camenga 3H, not a phosphorescent version of the Army issue, or an older generation.
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SGT Jonathon Caldwell
SGT Jonathon Caldwell
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Best bet like any NCOES or other school or class. You cant be wrong taking issued stuff.
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From my experience to be successful at WLC you need a good base in a few areas. You'll want a basic understanding of the different AR's, ADP's and ADRP's. Make sure you are doing your PT to the standard. Anything less won't be counted. For land nav you just need to practice and make sure you have a technique that works for you. Some people will plot their points and find their azimuths and break brush the whole way. Depending on where you go to WLC you might be able to use some land features and plot paths around brush. Just pick a technique, stick to it and nail it. Above all else the SGL's know exactly what you need to successfully complete the course. Listen to what they have to say. Go to them for any extra help you need and you'll do great.
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SFC Jon Vandeyacht
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Most you need is already said. The hardest part is leading PT. Learn the opening and closing commands. Practice marching your squad. These things take a little bit of time and practice. Land Nav isnt so bad. Practice plotting points on a map and getting the new azmuth to head as well as distance. As for movement, shoot a direction with the compass frequently. More so in thick areas. Most of the land nav sites are heavily traveled so it can help but dont be too dependant on prior trails...shoot frequently and keep your pace count. The course is set up for success...it isnt jumpmaster or ranger schools...pay attention and do what they say, when they say it, and you will very much so succeed.... Good luck on your future as a leader of Soldiers.....
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SFC William Swartz Jr
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Get practice on leading pt from start to finish, get hard copies of FMs to read over, Leadership, etc. Practice reading a map, plotting points, using a compass and land nav, the more practice you have ahead of time the better you will be as well as more comfortable doing it. When there, listen to your SGLs (Instructors), they are SMEs for the course, remember you have 2 ears and 1 mouth, use the ears more and good luck!!
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1SG Michael Blount
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This course, just like any other the Army has, is designed to be tough, but have you succeed, too. If you know you're weak in an area (eg land nav), practice it before leaving. Honor grad is nice, but don't worry about not getting it. Focus on graduating. Everyone walks out of there with the same rack you've got. Remember that.
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SGT S Sharpless
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If you fail itll be because you didn't listen in class. They break everything down and have you practice before they let you go on the land nav site. Pay attention, take notes, ask questions...you'll be fine
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SFC Senior Small Group Leader
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Be familiar with D & C and confident, be familiar with PRT and expect to conduct it. Land Nav has been covered already....do some actual land nav training and you will be fine. You must give a 5 minute oral history brief, you will teach a CIT class ( Warrior Skills Training ). There are three written tests for the three blocks of instruction in Leadership, Training and Warfighter blocks. And, of course, passing the first test, which is your APFT is essential as well as HT/WT. The higher your score the better your GPA will be as it is added in or calculated into your overall GPA. The rest of the evals and instruction are easily accomplished with a little attention to detail. Also, be familiar with the Creed of the Noncommisioned Officer aka NCO Creed and you will be way ahead of the game and good to go. Good luck !
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