Posted on Apr 8, 2017
What are the pros or cons of switching from National Guard to Active Duty and changing my MOS (from 11B to 56M or 68W)?
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Corporal, I'm a 68W. From what I've gathered speaking to soldiers, there's little difference in the physicality and combat involvement of being infantry vs. 68W. Medics run with the infantry. We trained with an infantry DS in my BCT platoon who stressed that we need to keep up and then some with the infantry. Almost every medic I have met, whose been to a field unit with infantry, prefers it over working at a hospital. This is due to the 'top-heavy' environment and very political atmosphere. Also PT is not as intense as patient care is a priority. A lot of people failed their PT test in my department because of it. also the hospital 'soldiering' atmosphere as is very relaxed and often criticized for lack of discipline and military bearing. The Pros of the hospital though is the experience you get and training with various medical practitioners - if your lucky. I say that because their primary duties are demanding and training can sparse depending on your department. Yet that alone is a big gamble as your involvement varies by the hospital departments SOP. If there is something specific that you'd like to know about 68W, just PM me. Hope this gives some clarification into our MOS.
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SFC (Join to see) - Sort of. My brother is a Medic and he can't even become an EMT without additional schooling even though he has experience as a Medic.
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SPC (Join to see) - of course there's extra. A medic and an EMT are not the same thing anymore. It's like saying mechanic or technician
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I dont know where your brother is working, but NREMT is all you need to work as an EMT. They may only need paramedics, you need to look where they want basics.
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SSG Anthony Jennings
Did things change again?? As a Medic you are, or at least were, suppose to obtain and maintain a NR-EMT certification to retain MOS-Q. EMT is/was instructed in the first half of Medic school. EMT refresher training was build into the training schedule. The major difference between a Medic and an EMT is a Medic's scope of practice varies on the situation. In a Hospital environment, you are restricted by credentialing. In a field unit, the MD/PA sets your scope. At times your the only medical resource in the area, so you are the "DOC".
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Based on my personal experience, you have to prepare yourself mentally and physically. I served 12 years on active duty and 8 years in the National Guard before retirement. It was truly an eye opener. Serving part-time in the National Guard is totally different from full-time active duty. The opportunities to succeed as a full-time soldier is much greater. The atmosphere working with a team with the same mindset is an awesome experience. Building unit spirit will motivate you and fellow comrades to accomplish every mission that's presented. On active duty, you will enhance your knowledge and ability as a soldier. You will enhance your overall health by conducting physical training on M-F. If you're assigned to a deployment unit, you might even conduct PT on Saturdays. You will develop your skills as a soldier by attending technical, tactical, and professional training classes. In addition, you will travel more. Possibly serve over seas in a foreign country. Civilian education is available at a local college or online. You will receive excellent benefits relating to health, dental, life insurance, and many other essential benefits. Married couples receive additional benefits involving housing, BAQ, and other essential benefits. The military is about opportunities. If you decide to select active duty, I wish you much success serving as a soldier for the US Army.
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One of my good friends was a 56M and loved every minute of it and she made SGT in no time. She was always busy organizing Marriage retreats and Single Soldier retreats.
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I re-classed from 11B, to 68R. Overall the quality of life is better. Your body takes a beating in the Infantry. At some point your will leave the Army. You need consider that. If you love it still and do not mind then continue. Look at your situation and weight the options that will benefit you and support serving.
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If you switch to 56m be prepared for your faith to be tested, because you will see a lot of things you won't forget if deployed and if you switch to 68w be prepared for a lot of paperwork
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The biggest con is that most NG Soldiers wanting to go active duty think it is an easy process until they try to get a DD368 approved for conditional release. A common misconception is that a company or Bn commander is the approving authority. In most states, it is the state Adjutant General. Be prepared for a long wait with no answers. The second biggest is con is if your release is approved, then your options are limited to the HRC Prior Service business rules, which are basically a short list of high priority "needs of the Army" MOS's for your pay grade. If your current MOS is one of those, that may be your only option.
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I'm in a sort of special window because my ets is in June and I'm having them do the paperwork now which they should hopefully just sign off on quickly because of my upcoming ets (I'd rather transfer now than have to deal with getting out and getting back in). With less than 3 years active duty time I wasn't sure where i would fall in as far as prior service goes
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SFC J Fullerton
CPL (Join to see) - Another misconception is NG or USAR to the Regular Army is a "transfer". It is not a transfer. You are being conditionally released to enlist into the Regular Army. In other words, your reserve component contract is voided in order to make a new contract for the active component. If your physical is up to date (less than 2 yrs old) with the NG, it will be used for your Regular Army enlistment whether you are still in the NG or have been discharged. Test scores will still be good too. Either way, the process at MEPS is still the same. The only difference is that you won't need the DD368 conditional release if you have an NGB22 discharging you from the guard. Since you are close to your ETS, I doubt the NG is going to jump through hoops to push a DD368 up to the approval authority (most likely the state AG) for someone 90 days from ETS. Rarely do they even get approved that fast anyway, if approved at all. Your more likely to get your NGB22 discharge sooner than getting a DD368 pushed up to the state AG. Being discharged from the guard or released from the guard makes no difference. Either way, you are a Prior Service applicant processing for enlistment into the Regular Army.
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SPC (P) 68W. I would personally say that if you're looking to switch to medical, laboratory technician or LVN (68C) is the way to go. It's much easier to get a job on the outside with those MOS as opposed to being a medic and only having an EMT-B license. The end game should be preparing yourself for life after retirement/ETS, so you'd want to invest in something that you could make a career out of.
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Right now the bisiness rules for prior service are the best ive seen em in a while, job choice wise. The nice thing about active duty is depending on your job the potential for promotion is quicker. Toull be full time so you wont have to supplement with a civi job. If you like the military part of being in the military you should enjoy active duty. Worst case scenario you get out in 4 yrs and use all the benefits to your advantage to include a year worth of ACAP helping you transition for success
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I'm looking forward to going active duty and the opportunities it has. I've spent 6 years in two MOS's I didn't really care for (19D and 11B) and hopping that 68W or 56M will give me the job satisfaction that I am looking for as they both interest me. I figure with six years in and if I sign a four year contract that'll put me at the halfway point and I might as well stick it out. I can't say no to the chance of retiring at 38 (or 44 if they don't count my guard time for pension).
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You may be able to work with your retention NCO on transitioning if not take your DD214 to a recruiter and ask him what the ps business rules are concerning mos's they will be able to tell you what is available. But 1st come 1st serve
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I do know there's a big difference between active duty and national guard or reserves.
I recall being active duty for four years in the Army then did four years inactive reserves. I found out quickly that it was a totally different world. I went from 11B on active to changing MOS to 92S. And, I was in mostly a 68W reserve unit. It's true that We had medics when We deployed on active duty as well.
I recall being active duty for four years in the Army then did four years inactive reserves. I found out quickly that it was a totally different world. I went from 11B on active to changing MOS to 92S. And, I was in mostly a 68W reserve unit. It's true that We had medics when We deployed on active duty as well.
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