Posted on Dec 19, 2015
What are the reasons that Service Members with PTSD, TBI, or Severely Disabled will not try new services to get help?
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What are the reasons that Service Members with PTSD, TBI, or Severely Disabled will not try new services to get help?
I have a number of questions within this post that I would like to get everyone's input on from a professional standpoint. I also have some very important information for veterans and service members that need help and want to keep it anonymous!
As you know I lost a Father-in-Law (Vietnam Veteran diagnoised with PTSD) to Suicide on Tuesday, 8 December 2015 and he was buried on 16 December 2015 in Killeen, TX with full military honors! It is importand to me and the RallyPoint Members that are working with me and Virtual World Solutions to help stop this waive of suicides due to PTSD, TBI, and many other factors affecting our service members (including MST).
Please check the survey box - need the input please!
RP Memebers there are so many new services out there today for individuals that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, and that are Severely Disabled - how do we get them to feel comfortable about any one service or methodology?
Here is a nice evening program every Sunday called: "Warrior for Life" (WFL) Group Suport. This is now a part of Victory for Veterans Foundation. We stay connected (7) days a week on SKYPE with our group members. We welcome Veterans, Active Duty Service Members, Military Family Members, and Civilians that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, MST, and other disabilities to join us on Sunday evenings.
Please connect with me first on SKYPE at: mikel.burroughs
Have a short BIO about yourself ready to go and then I'll add you to the group with a Welcoming Message. You can get to know others via text first and then join us on Sunday evenings. If you want to join the Video Conference just to observe, you can turn off video and audio and just observe until you feel comfortable with the group. All of our members are members of RallyPoint and we've been meeting now going on two (2) years now.
We have members from all over the world and United States, so come join us for this one hour of group support each week.
Here is how you can join this Sunday to just listen in if you want to or any Sunday in the future:
Warrior for Life Group Support Sunday night at 8:00 PM EST (7:00 PM CST) 6:00 PM MST & 5:00 PM PST!
COL (R) Mikel Burroughs is inviting you to a RingCentral meeting.
Join from PC, Mac, iOS or Android: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/j/ [login to see]
Or iPhone one-tap:
+ [login to see] ,, [login to see] #
Or Telephone:
Dial: + [login to see]
Meeting ID: [login to see]
International numbers available: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/teleconference
SGT Michael Thorin has provided some directions for loading Ring Central.
https://youtu.be/M8D_8iSNQ7k
I have a number of questions within this post that I would like to get everyone's input on from a professional standpoint. I also have some very important information for veterans and service members that need help and want to keep it anonymous!
As you know I lost a Father-in-Law (Vietnam Veteran diagnoised with PTSD) to Suicide on Tuesday, 8 December 2015 and he was buried on 16 December 2015 in Killeen, TX with full military honors! It is importand to me and the RallyPoint Members that are working with me and Virtual World Solutions to help stop this waive of suicides due to PTSD, TBI, and many other factors affecting our service members (including MST).
Please check the survey box - need the input please!
RP Memebers there are so many new services out there today for individuals that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, and that are Severely Disabled - how do we get them to feel comfortable about any one service or methodology?
Here is a nice evening program every Sunday called: "Warrior for Life" (WFL) Group Suport. This is now a part of Victory for Veterans Foundation. We stay connected (7) days a week on SKYPE with our group members. We welcome Veterans, Active Duty Service Members, Military Family Members, and Civilians that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, MST, and other disabilities to join us on Sunday evenings.
Please connect with me first on SKYPE at: mikel.burroughs
Have a short BIO about yourself ready to go and then I'll add you to the group with a Welcoming Message. You can get to know others via text first and then join us on Sunday evenings. If you want to join the Video Conference just to observe, you can turn off video and audio and just observe until you feel comfortable with the group. All of our members are members of RallyPoint and we've been meeting now going on two (2) years now.
We have members from all over the world and United States, so come join us for this one hour of group support each week.
Here is how you can join this Sunday to just listen in if you want to or any Sunday in the future:
Warrior for Life Group Support Sunday night at 8:00 PM EST (7:00 PM CST) 6:00 PM MST & 5:00 PM PST!
COL (R) Mikel Burroughs is inviting you to a RingCentral meeting.
Join from PC, Mac, iOS or Android: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/j/ [login to see]
Or iPhone one-tap:
+ [login to see] ,, [login to see] #
Or Telephone:
Dial: + [login to see]
Meeting ID: [login to see]
International numbers available: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/teleconference
SGT Michael Thorin has provided some directions for loading Ring Central.
https://youtu.be/M8D_8iSNQ7k
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To increase "show" rates at demonstration, maybe you could implement a webinar, audio/video conference, or even podcast for future referencing. If the problem is an on-site attendance, could it be a time-conflict? Transportation or capability limitations? Forgetting about the event (are reminders being sent out?)? Sudden issues/emergencies that take precedence?
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
CPT Benjamin Wenner We are currenetly using Zoom (Free) for webinars every Thursday evening for veterans with PTSD, TBI, MST, and that are severely disabled and Monday nights for potential clients to sponsor the veterans! We have to do the evenings because the CEO has Lyme's disease and that is when she is functioning at her very best. Also, we've found that everyone is home from work. We are working on a series fo videos, but we are in desparate need of a videographer with that experience. We'll get there workign through all the road blocks - thanks for sharing your thoughts - appreciated!
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There is no silver bullet for this issue! Peer support is greatest strength in dealing with emotional issues of this nature. Contractors are selling their programs all around the country, most with some variance of "trusted agent" relationship between the member and the "provider". There is not a cure, only a system of managing conditions. Drugs and alcohol are huge and dangerous triggers for those dealing with these issues, so walk away from that shit first and foremost. Then find a local peer group that will avail themselves to you day and night, anonymously, and fold yourself into the safety and security of your brothers and sisters...not a perfect solution, but evidence of some success in keeping the members at least engaged with like-type folks. A white lab coat, or a marijuana filled sweat house will cause the suffering member to retreat further into the safety of their own "personal perimeter". VA is overwhelmed on so many levels...and behavioral sciences require some "trusted agent" relationships to be built and nurtured over a period of time. I suspect that only your peers are really capable of "getting it" and any contractor, lab rat, pipe-smoking psychologist, or pot smoking guru from the end of the bar at the VFW is not going to raise confidence in the sufferer that already struggles with sharing raw, embarrassing, and very personal stuff in pursuit of finding the tools to manage their situation.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Bob Labadie Thanks for you candid feedback - we can't give up on any of these service members and yes I've got a program that wants to help too. Here is the newsletter: https://www.smore.com/x19ep
Why Are We Waiting for Others to Find Solutions When Each Day Passes 22 More Veterans Will Commit Suicide? It is up to us, the Citizens...
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I honestly think as Vets we are a proud group. We don't like hand outs...we only accepted a hand up while on duty. Also the information doesn't flow rapidly enough. Programs are hard to find out about especially new ones. We need more facts and I think education that it isn't a handout but a handup!
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs: The photograph on the far left, of the Soldier saluting and crying at the same time- is about the saddest thing I have ever seen in my LIFE.
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SGT Bob Whitworth
This and more,
it's important their trust is honored, if they don't think it is, there is reason to hold back.
The old adage, People don't care what you know unless they know you care.
it's important their trust is honored, if they don't think it is, there is reason to hold back.
The old adage, People don't care what you know unless they know you care.
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Personally I think it is a combination of all the above/below stated ones. I didn't even know I had PTSD until my mother and current wife saw that there was something wrong with me. Once I found out it was/wasn't me then I could get some help. Also, one has to WANT to get help. Once you take that step of WANTING to get help? You are on your way.
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To me the biggest issue was trust. It has taken me quite a while before I truly started to open up about my PTS. I went through some counseling while still AD and really didn't want to start all over. The hardest part is having to retell everything again.
Now at the VA most of my doctors go, I have read your file so I will not ask you to relive the whole issue.
Now at the VA most of my doctors go, I have read your file so I will not ask you to relive the whole issue.
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The major reason I see is because the VA system is not easy to get into, has a poor track record of treating veterans and is not trusted. I have full VA coverage and Medicare. I have three major health issues, I only use the VA for one of them and if it wasn't for them thinking I was "cured" and revamping my pension% I'd go through medicare for that.
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With so much verbiage in support of us - you just get tired of it and lean on others you know dealing with the same issues. We have lots of people who say "Support the Troops." In reality it's mostly lip service and those who use it for personal gain. The best and most loyal supporters are from within and from others who have served as well. I see a growing distrust of Veterans and that disturbs me deeply.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
SCPO Charles Thomas "Tom" Canterbury I see it too everyday - it is very disturbing!
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When I got out of the military and did my exit physical i told the doctor about some of my issues and he basically laughed in my face. I'm older now and don't want to go through the hassle of having another doctor make excuses.
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