Posted on Mar 28, 2014
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At this time these events are considered public events and any one can watch them, however, my question is does anyone think that by making these events mandatory for the Soldiers in the unit to observe, either on a specific day or by substituting a training session for observance of this event, it would in any way deter criminal behavior in a unit?
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SGT Suraj Dave
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Doesn't really matter. I got an ART 15 once when I was a PFC. It took over a month to go through. When it did, I knocked on the commanders door, reported ... got read my Art 15, got dismissed ....

It wasn't embarrassing. No one insulted me or degraded me. It was probably one of the most formal things I wouldn't expect to be formal. Later, my commander and 1sg pulled me aside and told me this wasn't the end. It was a slip up, and I would recover. I did. 2 weeks later my extra duty finished, like it never happened.
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CW4 Craig Urban
CW4 Craig Urban
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Never had to pull.extra duty.
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CW4 Craig Urban
CW4 Craig Urban
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I was a sp/5.
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SSG Gordon Hill
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No it should not be made mandatory for soldiers to attended, everyone entering the service receives training on the UCMJ system and that concerns judicial and non-judicial punishments
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CW4 Craig Urban
CW4 Craig Urban
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Ucmj is fair
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CW4 Craig Urban
CW4 Craig Urban
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I got a article 15 once in Germany. 5 k over the speed limit. Got a verbal counsel. What a joke.
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Edited 10 y ago
<p>This is a very touchy subject... Are there things to be learned from these...YES. Is it really necessary to completely embarrass a Soldier while they are at their lowest already for what might have been a simple mistake,&nbsp;in front of their peers...NO</p>
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SFC Timothy Riser
SFC Timothy Riser
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SSG MBOUP, I voted you down as you called it of my own accord not anything to do with SGT Riser, I do not agree with your statement. 
If you ever believe that I would merely dislike your post on the grounds that you did not agree with SGT Riser's please understand that when it concerns work and the military we do not do that, SGT Riser would disagree with me immediately if I posted something she disagreed with. 

I also believe the last comment about being originators husband is a personal attack. If you think you need to withhold your comments simply because someone might judge you for it lends credence to my point that if they were public for all to see you would not be afraid to speak your mind and develop an NCO backbone.

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SSG Bane,

lol - I generally hear that from Air Defenders! 
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SSG Bane, 

I had to just stop laughing. I swear I made that comment about Air Defenders because of my last unit and because my husband is an Air Defender. I then clicked on your name when I saw you used the word "battery" and thought to myself, "what are the odds?" We were both 5-5 prior to arrival here at Sill. I wrote SEVERAL 15's while I was there! 
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<p>Admitting your faults is one thing and I have no issues admitting mine. I honestly don't think I would still be in the Army if my issues were made public and I am sorry if that disturbs you. I actually almost opted to not re-enlist until my Assistant Squad leader sat me down and talked to me. And yes I tell my Soldiers about almost getting out and have an Art 15, because as Leaders we should be teaching Soldiers from our mistakes, and showing them what a true leader looks like...and to now retired SSG Johnson...Thank you for making me the Leader I am today. Again I apologize if my comments disturbed anyone, was just speaking on my own thoughts.</p><p><br></p>
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