What are your thoughts on Oklahoma Congressman asking for test results of female Ranger grads?

It's unnecessary. If you are going to question the integrity of the RI's then you are compromising the reputation of the tab and the course. And doing it in such a public manor is unneeded. The RI's have been entrusted with the gateway to one of the most prestigious qualifications that any military has to offer. The CoC at RTB should be conducting checks like this. And if this individual really needs to know about the standards being upheld, then he should do so discretely. That's my opinion. May not be yours.

CPT(P) (Join to see) - I think the point is that the "sources" are saying that the RIs were forced to remain silent by the chain of command. So it would not make sense for the commander to investigate this. Yes the RIs are entrusted to uphold standards but if they were ordered to modify them in any way, it would the commanders who failed to live up to that. With all of the political pressure and visibility on this and seeing how politics affects decisions at the upper levels of the Army, I can see this happening. As noble as being an officer is, I have seen the desire to take care of self many times supersede taking care of the nation.

CPT(P) (Join to see) The article says it was Ranger instructors who contacted the congressman and asked him to investigate, so I don't think the congressman is questioning the integrity of any RI's.

And one or two RI's saying things like this tells me one thing... A woman was part of a Ranger student's graded patrol. He didn't give them as much to carry or time with the 240/249 because he wanted to ensure passing and completion of the mission by the hit time. Unwilling to trust a female (and potentially rightfully so; I don't know I wasn't there) to do these duties she was given special treatment by the Ranger student. That is exactly what this sounds like. Having it twisted into lower school house standards is no good. It's no good for the CoC. It's no good for the school. And it's no good for those that earned their tab or want to earn their tab in the future. So one... Maybe two RI's saying things like this does not speak for all the instructors there. And the article does not explicitly say it was the RI's that came forward. Just what was allegedly said by one. Someone else may have over heard this and got the word to this Congressman. I'm not saying it's impossible. I know the Army can be a political monster, but I'm hesitant to take away from a person's accomplishment with little evidence or reason to believe the truth is any different.

SFC Chris Crossley According to the article, Ranger instructors blew the whistle to the congressman and asked him to investigate.

I just read that part.
My point is that there are hundreds of Soldiers assigned to the ARTB. Calling the entire program into question over some allegations is insulting to the CG and to the RI's overall. If one or two felt pressure to adjust from the SOP, then those individual should have had the moral courage to challenge the orders on the spot or seek IG assistance when allowed. There are systems and processes and regulations in place to address these topics. I can never remember an SOP where I was to write my elected officials if i felt that I received an unlawful order.
To go outside of chain of command and draw even more attention to an already media saturated event is uncalled for in my mind.
No I have never attended the Ranger Course, yes I spent a few days in the Infantry. I know many RI's, and I am familiar with the the conduct of the course.
Good point though Cpl McMiller, good attention to detail skills!
Chris

SCPO Eddie Wilson - Can't leave well enough alone, eh? I think your responses are generated by other than the topic. If it gives you and the SGT a thrill by leaving off my title, more power to you. You know very well that it is a sign of disrespect and I, personally won't go there. I have no idea what the "gash" that you keep referring to means, but perhaps you are much smarter than I am.

This is no place for personal insults, if you want to go that way take it to the message provision. Your are disrespecting the forum, in general.

MCPO Roger Collins - Sure wish SCPO had not blocked me. I wanted to ask him if that meant I had to give back ten or so thumb's up. :)

Sgt Richard Buckner - Still waiting for that new standard.

CSM Michael J. Uhlig I hadn't read that anywhere. Do you have a link?

CSM Michael J. Uhlig Never mind. I read another article posted here where Maj. Gen. Scott Miller is denying any pressure.