Posted on Jul 7, 2024
What are your thoughts on the Army eliminating the MP Corps?
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I have seen many posts on Facebook in the Oldschool 95B page talking about the Army either eliminating the MP Corps or eliminating Garrison Law Enforcement from the mission.
I've heard this rumor before, even when I was still in 35+ years ago. I do believe base law enforcement duties stateside will become more and more commonly handled by DOD Police allowing more personnel assigned to units to handle the changing and evolving wartime mission. There's been criticism about "civilian" police enforcing the laws on base, but the DOD Police aren't civilian. They work under the same authority and enforce all military regulations and policies as the MPs do. They also have the same responsibility to the UCMJ as any military member. I see no issues here. What do you say?
I've heard this rumor before, even when I was still in 35+ years ago. I do believe base law enforcement duties stateside will become more and more commonly handled by DOD Police allowing more personnel assigned to units to handle the changing and evolving wartime mission. There's been criticism about "civilian" police enforcing the laws on base, but the DOD Police aren't civilian. They work under the same authority and enforce all military regulations and policies as the MPs do. They also have the same responsibility to the UCMJ as any military member. I see no issues here. What do you say?
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In basic, I was told to escort an prisoner to the brig. He sat across from me in the back of a 3/4 ton. They handed me a 45 and said, If he escapes I would serve out his sentence. I put a round in the chamber, turned the safety off, and told him, "I'm not going to serve out your sentence.
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Unless things have changed over the last twenty years, military police are not just post police officers, they have a combat mission, which ranges from glorified infantry to rear area security. Then there the conflict resolution part.
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SGT Greg Knytych
True but there are useful skills learned in the Garrison (CONUS) duties, which is the area of change I've seen discussed.
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The USCG has seven different roles, including:
Maritime Law Enforcement: The Maritime Law Enforcement mission program protects America's maritime borders, defends the Nation's maritime sovereignty, facilitates legitimate use of the waterways, and suppresses violations of U.S. Federal law on, under, and over the seas to include illegal migration and Transnational Organized Crime.
The Army also has the United States Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID), which I always thought was part of the MP Corp, but I suppose it isn’t really.
Why not transform the MP Corp into something like what the USCG does in the area of law enforcement, including what MP’s do during war time?
Maritime Law Enforcement: The Maritime Law Enforcement mission program protects America's maritime borders, defends the Nation's maritime sovereignty, facilitates legitimate use of the waterways, and suppresses violations of U.S. Federal law on, under, and over the seas to include illegal migration and Transnational Organized Crime.
The Army also has the United States Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID), which I always thought was part of the MP Corp, but I suppose it isn’t really.
Why not transform the MP Corp into something like what the USCG does in the area of law enforcement, including what MP’s do during war time?
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SGT Greg Knytych
The problem is that the USCG wartime and peacetime missions aren't very different in their AO and the tactics are not that different, whereas the MP in CONUS are almost opposite. Wartime duties are POW Operations, traffic control, battlefield and rear area security, and recon/small unit incursions. Law enforcement is at the bottom of the list.
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SGT Greg Knytych
That's what I thought too, but I've seen this story in a few different places reported slightly differently.
The common component is changing duties in CONUS posts away from Garrison Duties (law/traffic enforcement, criminal investigations, etc) towards combat training and mission oriented activities while keeping overseas duties similar to current duties.
Most stories talk about manpower needs and mission readiness. Not sure what to believe at this point.
The common component is changing duties in CONUS posts away from Garrison Duties (law/traffic enforcement, criminal investigations, etc) towards combat training and mission oriented activities while keeping overseas duties similar to current duties.
Most stories talk about manpower needs and mission readiness. Not sure what to believe at this point.
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Been over 35 years since my ETS buy we fulfilled a role in central America no other type of unit could have. Back then in some 3rd world countries they are willing to accept MPs vs infantry because they saw them as less of a threat even though our MTOE was heavier than a light infantry unit. If this still holds true, I don't see how they can be eliminated. Not to mention the POW and battlefield traffic ops.
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