Posted on Jul 29, 2018
What Army regulation addresses a situation where a single soldier who wants to move out of the barracks?
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Any reg stating if a Single soilder can or can’t move out of the barracks (knowning they would have to maintain a barracks room) Leadership has told him that he can not move out, but was not gave a reason as to why he couldn’t. Soilder wants to move in with his friend that is married, the friend is in the military and has said he wouldn’t have to pay rent, just to pay for his on groceries.
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He can move off post, he'll just be required to maintain a barracks room and won't be authorized BAH. There's nothing that requires him to sleep in his room or maintain his gear in a barracks.
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This is where you have to apply some critical thinking. Most of the time the regulations the guidelines for thinking instead of spelling out what you can and cannot do.
Think of it from your privates point of view...
As a private, the Army provides you with a Barracks room that you have to maintain. There is nothing that says you must sleep in that room, only that you must maintain it. You are allowed to sleep anywhere you want on any night of the week. You can store your gear, or your clothing, at your girlfriend's house and effectively live there. As long as you are provided a Barracks room, you can state that you reside there. Residing there does not mean that you have to sleep there every night.
Think of it from your privates point of view...
As a private, the Army provides you with a Barracks room that you have to maintain. There is nothing that says you must sleep in that room, only that you must maintain it. You are allowed to sleep anywhere you want on any night of the week. You can store your gear, or your clothing, at your girlfriend's house and effectively live there. As long as you are provided a Barracks room, you can state that you reside there. Residing there does not mean that you have to sleep there every night.
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1. What rank. 2. If not drawing BAH, the Command does not have to approve his moving out, even if he would maintain a room. 3. It is not what He wants, but what the Service wants.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - I think what SGT Morgan is saying is that the command cannot tell him that he MUST stay in the barracks and may not reside somewhere else. Sure, he won't get BAH, but if they force him to be in the barracks at any given point in time, that would be restriction.
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CPL Any Jim
What the service wants ? Yah thats what sgm say ' thay over priced secertary ... That they signature is worthles of no importance ! If a ltc lt and sgm on an island ? Who is in charge by what service wants standards ? Ltc right ? So by service standards who is in charge when commander goes to mainland to buy groceries ' lol ? Lt right .... Go peel them coconuts sgm ! Lmaooo punk
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No, freedom of choice went away with his oath of enlistment. I had few PFC's. I would have trusted to be away from the billets
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The soldier can sleep anywhere they choose to sleep but must maintain that barracks and no BAH, The soldier still has responsibility of the room and inspections. No one can make him sleep in his room unless the solder is on restrictions!
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Times have changed. In 1973 the reg was you had to make formation in the morning... but then all we had to maintain on post was a locker and a bunk in the platoon bay... always ready for inspection.
I had a Honda 450 to make the 40 mike trip to 82nd Div. on Ft Bragg from our house in Southern Pines (my new wife from Texas flatly refused to live in the mobile home I had rented in Fayetteville). Gas was in short supply back then and the price was way up to about $0.70/gal. I had a 3:00 AM jump manifest to make and before I got out of So. Pines my chain broke. My 73 Chevelle was out of gas and there was a standing General Order not to hitchhike on Front Bragg so I didn’t. I missed the jump manifest. I repaired the chain after the parts store opened and got in by about 10:00 AM. I got an Art-15 for missing formation. (Lost some pay for a little while).
Make sure you have a good backup plan for getting to work on time no matter what!
I had a Honda 450 to make the 40 mike trip to 82nd Div. on Ft Bragg from our house in Southern Pines (my new wife from Texas flatly refused to live in the mobile home I had rented in Fayetteville). Gas was in short supply back then and the price was way up to about $0.70/gal. I had a 3:00 AM jump manifest to make and before I got out of So. Pines my chain broke. My 73 Chevelle was out of gas and there was a standing General Order not to hitchhike on Front Bragg so I didn’t. I missed the jump manifest. I repaired the chain after the parts store opened and got in by about 10:00 AM. I got an Art-15 for missing formation. (Lost some pay for a little while).
Make sure you have a good backup plan for getting to work on time no matter what!
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Unless I’m reading something incorrectly, please see DoD manual NUMBER 4165.63, updated 29DEC2017.
Regarding single soldiers, it states on page 12:
“b) Unaccompanied Military Personnel. Each Military Service may determine which segments of the unaccompanied population will be required to live in military housing. This requirement may include Service members of a certain pay grade and/or Service members defined as key and essential.”
Additionally, the attached photo from the same manual (pg.26) indicates the minimum standards of living quarters according to rank.
Best of luck.
Regarding single soldiers, it states on page 12:
“b) Unaccompanied Military Personnel. Each Military Service may determine which segments of the unaccompanied population will be required to live in military housing. This requirement may include Service members of a certain pay grade and/or Service members defined as key and essential.”
Additionally, the attached photo from the same manual (pg.26) indicates the minimum standards of living quarters according to rank.
Best of luck.
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He cannot. If he chooses to sleep elsewhere he is subject to all rules associated with living in quarters. This rule is in place to ensure that the military is providing for the health and welfare of our Service members. Thank you for your service.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
CSM Darieus ZaGara He cannot... what? He can't choose to live somewhere else? I'm pretty sure he can - as long as he maintains his barracks room, he can sleep anywhere he likes.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
Every installation is now in the Garrison track. The Garrison Commander manages the barracks. The policies are universal. There are always exceptions.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
Give up his space without Garrison approval. Of course he can sleep wherever he chooses. This is America. Thank you for your service.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
CSM Darieus ZaGara - And that was my point. He can't be restricted where he actually resides. His only restriction is what place he has to take care of.
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How could you possibly stop him, there’s no bed checks. As long as the room is maintained and he’s always on time who would care?
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Other than the responsibilities that come with having a room assigned there is no reason why he cannot move off Post. They may not approve officially as that may give a Soldier the feeling that they have no responsibility with the room assigned.
Bottom line is he has to maintain the room and meet any other commitments that the unit or housing has based on the Garrison environment.
Bottom line is he has to maintain the room and meet any other commitments that the unit or housing has based on the Garrison environment.
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A soldiers ability to live on off post depends on his service record not his marital status, if a soldier has a terrible record, ie late to work, missing gear, bad uniform, they can be restricted to post. Maybe more to this story then being presented?? Also the wife may have called the command, and voiced concern?
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