Posted on Oct 6, 2023
SPC UH-60 Helicopter Repairer
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I haven’t been specifically directed or ordered to transport said soldier but I would like to refuse and I would like to be able to protect myself with facts to be on the safe side
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SSG Rick Miller
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Hold on there, high speed. You haven't been specifically directed or ordered to do this, but you want to refuse to do it? Something ain't adding up. Why refuse something you haven't been specifically directed or ordered to do? Again, it doesn't add up. If the CoC asked you to do it, sure you can say no. If they ask why, lay out your reasons. But, and this is a huge but, if they don't think your reasons are legit, you just labelled yourself as not willing to help out a fellow troop. You want to hang stripes instead of the sham shield? Refusing to lend a helping hand ain't the way to do it. Pick the hill you're willing to die on, but save it for a mountain, not an anthill.
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SFC Water Treatment Specialist
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My philosophy, I will provide a necessary ride when needed but make it clear you will not be a chauffeur. If they expect it routinely as whoever tasked you to start a DA6 for rides.
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SFC Water Treatment Specialist
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I encountered this on Active Duty. Shitbirds that lived off post and didn't have vehicles. I lived on post. On one instance I went to the 1SG and got him moved on Post. I did go thru FLL and PSG who thought I acted irrationally and I got counseled. However 1SG was on my side. I will only be a team player to a certain degree. I will give anyone a ride but if you aren't gonna drive move on post. Also the shitbird was married but his wife was alway out of town allegedly. This was brought up but I don't know if it was ever investigated. As a leader you do more for making subordinates solve their own problems.
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CPT Field Artillery Officer
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UCMJ Articke 92. You can not protect youself. You can go to the IG and EO, but the Commnder has to listen to neither. Been there done that. Lost my career because of it. Yes you can then appeal to the Board of Corrections, but they normally just deny and make some excuse why they denied. Sure you can take it to court - good luck with that, US Amy lawyers will threaten and intimidate you lawyer, foce him or her to drop the case- after which you will pick it up and refile just to have the judge deny your in pauperis forma. Because after an illegal sparation dont we all have the money to fight the US Army in court? Then after the courts -you can talk to your Congressperson who will do an inquiry (multiple in my case) after which the US Army will send up a bunch of lies about you, to which - regardless of eyewitness statements or documented evidence your Congress person will send you a form letter saying "sorry we could not help ya." "Don't let the door hit ya in the keister on the way out," or some semblance thereof. Then you can go across the country and try and get it to go public by having your family call and email every investigative reporter you can find the contact info for in America. When not one person returns you family's phone calls or emails, you can always write a names named nonfiction book like I had to in order to let the public know that US Army does not honor their contracts with young officers and will give unfollowable (also known as illegal) orders to someone that they do not like even though records show that this person was doing well in their course and otherwise there would be no other way to ruin that person's life by ending his or her career just because. So yeah. No way to protect youself against that if you are given an order. If you dont follow it, your career is toast. Still fighting for mine after 17-18 years and counting now.
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SGT Air Defense Radar Repairer
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Doing so puts you in a dangerous legal situation insurance wise. Therefore no one in your COC should be placing you in this situation. Depending on the state you may need additional licenses over and above your standard lic. If your insurance company learns what you are doing they most likely will terminate your insurance.

Go to JAG and get advice.
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