Posted on Sep 27, 2017
What can be done to a Soldier who refuses to study for the board because he will be ETSing next year?
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In the old days you could just be in the army. Some Joes are being good at being Joe. To resolve this we should bring back the spec5 spec6 rank
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Why make him, there was a time when you could be a career private. I re-enlisted as an sp4 and thought I was going to make it a career. Then I started seeing what some of the e5 e6 put up with. I made one hell of good 4 yr. SP4. And I had it very well off. No one ever messed with me, including nco’s. I was the go to guy to get anything needed. If a guy is happy where he is at great I have a happy soldier. Sometimes that’s hard to find. I don’t always agree with the up or out attitude, though I understand it. And it was hard at times to get points. I saw plenty of guys waiting for e5 a very long time. They got pissed every time promotions came.and they weren’t on it again. My first 3yrs were so much harder than my second 4. Sp4 moffia ruled
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Nothing.. do a counseling session, have the soldier sign his/her counseling acknowledging that they understand that their choice of actions will lead to a specific eventuality. Since they dont want to improve themselves, give the opportunity to another soldier who really wants it...
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Not everyone is cut out to be a NCO. And if said person realizes this then i would commend them on knowing their limits
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I say leave the soldier alone. You will be taking away a spot for someone else to get promoted if this soldier goes to the board and gets promoted. The counseling is too easy to do and turn in to the 1SG on why they are not going to the board. All you have to do is keep the same write up and just change the date so you are documenting it every month as to why they are not going to the board.
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Nothing. Back in the ‘60’s we had many heavy truck drivers who turned down promotion or even did things to get busted back to SP4 so they could stay behind the wheel. Up or out costs the army lots of training $$$$.
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I never understood why someone in any branch of the military didn't want to be promoted. I mean if for any other reason but to make more money. I was motivated for pay and added privileges that came with a higher pay grade. A little self serving maybe, but I was willing to give back and step up to the responsibilities expected of me.
I guess for some, they are buying their time and waiting to get out at the end is service. As long as they remain productive I can respect that too. A gentle counseling would be appropriate to find out what is in their head and see what could be done to motivate the service member. If they are adamant that they don't want a promotion and want out, then focus on the service members whom want and need the support.
I guess for some, they are buying their time and waiting to get out at the end is service. As long as they remain productive I can respect that too. A gentle counseling would be appropriate to find out what is in their head and see what could be done to motivate the service member. If they are adamant that they don't want a promotion and want out, then focus on the service members whom want and need the support.
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This was always a struggle when I was active, basically I had two units, one that said you could not attend the board until you were ready, they would even make a mock board. The other would nearly force every eligible troop to go, the thought is of they get promotable then they will reenlist. I have always said that a proportion is on the soldier, and the leader is there to help if they ask. So leader should ever push a soldier to the board, those soldiers are nearly worthless as leaders.
P.S. as a guardsman now, I find many career specialists. And many are good at being a soldier but fail as an NCO, so there is no problem in my mind about that, as long as it's their choice.
P.S. as a guardsman now, I find many career specialists. And many are good at being a soldier but fail as an NCO, so there is no problem in my mind about that, as long as it's their choice.
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