Posted on Jan 16, 2017
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Col Dona  Marie Iversen
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When I was a young RN I would give them $, then I decided to follow a few, right to liquor store. From there on out, I would only buy them food & do my best to direct them or take them to the appropriate resources.
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SPC Douglas Bolton
SPC Douglas Bolton
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Great thoughts Col Iverson. I had a friend stop and offer to take panhandler to the local mission that takes them in and provides food. The man declined and said, "I make more money right here than most working people do in a day." One bad apple, but many others that are really in need. I think taking them food is a great choice.
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CPL Mark Lightfoot
CPL Mark Lightfoot
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it is until you watch them throw it into the nearest garbage can.buy them a meal,or better,refer them to the local shelter(if the area has one).most will turn it down.
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SN Aaron Matteson
SN Aaron Matteson
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just based on that one experience huh? well I don't drink. and I need help.
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Col Dona  Marie Iversen
Col Dona Marie Iversen
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SN Aaron Matteson - Hi! No not based on just one experience. Based on several...I 'interviewed' them to assess their situation & if they were actually a REAL veteran. Hope you get there services and support you require.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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"What can you do for a panhandling homeless vet that is worth more than giving them money?"
Exactly what i do.
Offer them a job
Offer them a ride to a shelter
Offer them a Gatorade or some food I have with me.

99% refuse all of that when I offer it weekly to those begging on the street corners of Austin TX.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGM Erik Marquez
8 y
1stSgt Eugene Harless - No doubt true,,,,and likely a significant factor in why they are homeless.
When I said job, I meant, day job, few hours, I transport, provide tools ,pay in cash. Sweep my riding range, pull weeds, use mower or weedeter..kind of stuff.
As far as strings attached, none,,,, no you can have this burger if you pray with me, not hay want a Gatorade if you will fill out this survey or Here is $10 if you let me take your pic, get your name.

just "hey want a drink?"

Last time I did that he threw it at the truck after I left the tight..he only wanted cash
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PVT Mark Dorton
PVT Mark Dorton
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Gentlemen quite a Few Vets have Substance abuse problems and Mental health issues But I do know that The Behavioral Health Clinics in the VA system provide a Path to Groups who provide shelter and also a HUD VASH Voucher for Qualified Vets.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGM Erik Marquez
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PVT Mark Dorton - and that's the kicker all of these programs but the majority of them refuse The assistance.
Whether it's because they're not truly eligible for an IE they're faking it.
Or they have mental or emotional issues which keep them from excepting one thing using the assistance available
Unless they're Violennt to themselves or others they won't be committed involuntarily so they'll never received the help they need.
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PVT Mark Dorton
PVT Mark Dorton
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Agreed. I work as A CSO with the VA Police and I see quite a few cases where they prefer to sleep in the street and when they are committed they usually have to be tricked so they don't leave the clinic. Come in everyday for a shower or a change in clothing or use the washer and dryer. It's heartbreaking but The VAPD are very understanding, very tolerant and Easy with them.
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
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I personally never give homeless anything other than food. In my opinion giving them money is often just enabling them to feed an addiction. In the area I'm in the homeless you see on the street fall into two categories, addicts or mentally ill. While people may always bring up homeless families and children I don't see them on the street.
I would hope its because they are in a program. Every hobo I see is an adult, usually with a cart full of stuff to camp out with.
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
1stSgt Eugene Harless
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LCpl James Robertson - The Marines who were sent there in 1975 were part of evacuation, and very small in numbers. Our involvement peaked in 1968 with about 536,000 deployed service members. In 1972 the numbers were at about 24,000. After that the numbers in country were just limited to advisors.
The point I am making is that the War "ending" and the deployment of US troops don't necessarily jive with each other.
You will be hard pressed to find many genuine vets who served in country 73-after.
"Operation End Sweep" was not some secret squirrel operation. It was merely to remove mines in NV waters we had planted.
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
1stSgt Eugene Harless
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LCpl James Robertson - For something that has "no records" there is a ton of crap on operation end sweep on the internet.
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
1stSgt Eugene Harless
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A1C Karyl Parks - Yes the mentally ill need assistance. The devil is in the details in the cases on mentally ill homeless people. Unless the commit a crime they aren't taken into custody. Because of civil rights, if a mentally ill person is taken off the streets he or she can only be held for 72 hours. Unless they are deemed a danger to themselves or others they have to be released. Some are instituionalized for short periods of time and medicated, but once they are released and stop meds its back to the same cycle.
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SN Aaron Matteson
SN Aaron Matteson
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you're a sorry piece of sh**... i'd give them money .. IF I COULD AFFORD TO! AS AN AFGHAN VET.
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