Posted on Jun 3, 2016
What can you do when your commander is attempting to get into your medical records to attempt to medically separate you?
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Lets be a little more clear. Your Commander can not grab your medical records and browse through them. (unless you sign the release and that's stupid) The Commander makes a request to your PCM or BDE Surgeon for- say a competency reason. The PCM will check and see if there is a concern, if so that, and only that information will be shared. Some auto-shares are... suicidal, homicidal, threat of harm to self or others, HIV positive, vague BH issues. Generally the PCM's will alert the Command if your durty status needs to be changed. This is why knowing if you are on flight status is important, as there are more reasons the Command needs to be notified of your inability to fly aircraft.
Also if you have a profile, the Commander may ask for more explanation. ie the Profile says 'No Field Duty' and thats it. Of course the Commander will want more information and will request it be provided.
Your profile alone can be grounds to start a medical separation, even if you don't want one started. Also, excessive appointments can be considered malingering, and the Command can ask the PCM to verify the validity of the appointments.
My reference is I was WTB Cadre for four years and dealt exclusively with Soldiers with complex medical care issues.
Also if you have a profile, the Commander may ask for more explanation. ie the Profile says 'No Field Duty' and thats it. Of course the Commander will want more information and will request it be provided.
Your profile alone can be grounds to start a medical separation, even if you don't want one started. Also, excessive appointments can be considered malingering, and the Command can ask the PCM to verify the validity of the appointments.
My reference is I was WTB Cadre for four years and dealt exclusively with Soldiers with complex medical care issues.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
It is worth noting that, as of 1 JUN, CDRs now need to sign off on profiles and can directly communicate with providers due to that requirement.
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MAJ Carl Ballinger - I have to agree. Note that in SOME cases it may be warranted, but too often a Soldier becomes pregnant and 3 days later is in a soft shoe, 8 hour duty day profile. Commanders having some real say so, other than just overriding the profile is refreshing.
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SGT Matthew Agnew
MAJ Carl Ballinger - I am inclined to agree with the stipulation that the medical authority has the final say even if the command disagrees. Sometimes command team members forget that soldiers are human beings with different capabilities and physical limits, and push a "drive on" mentality on their subordinates, causing existing medical conditions to become much worse over time.
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This is really great information. What is the regulations that cover this? I would like to add Thai to my tool bag.
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As a 1SG with assumption of command orders, I get every profile over 7 days, medical evaluation board documents, appointments, and MEDPROS reports to include dental on all my Soldiers. This allows me to know the limitations of my formation and can work with healthcare professionals to ensure the SM and unit are at a high rate of readiness.
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CSM Charles Hayden
Go get'em Top! Know what you have to work with! Then, engage and get to know your Soldiers.
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Sadly for your commander; and thankfully for you; HIPPA prevents your commander from doing that. And your PCM should be saying the same thing. Now your commander can do a line of duty determination based on the recommendation from your PCM.
The only way to for your commander can get your records would be for YOU to sign a release form. DO NOT DO IT!!!!
The only way to for your commander can get your records would be for YOU to sign a release form. DO NOT DO IT!!!!
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TaKoda Williams unless otherwise stated, that has personal medical information and is protected under HIPPA. There should be no reason for your CC to need that form. If they are trying to prove a point medically, they need to let the medical unit handle it.
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TaKoda Williams
So if this were the case, how do people get pinned for fraudulent enlistment for something like mild tremors or another small condition. Would they have to volunteer that info and then sign a release of information?
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