Posted on Nov 27, 2021
SFC Ralph E Kelley
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A federal law, enacted in 2004 that allows some classes of people to carry concealed firearms in any jurisdiction regardless of state or local laws.
I could use an outline of the carry requirements and the restrictions.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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JUST looking at your profile, and only that, you do not qualify under LEOSA.


The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (LEOSA) is a United States federal law, enacted in 2004, allows two classes of persons—the "qualified law enforcement officer" and the "qualified retired or separated law enforcement officer" to carry a concealed firearm in any jurisdiction in the United States, regardless of state or local laws, with certain exceptions.
One exception is Gun-Free School Zone Act (GFSZA) authorizes on-duty law enforcement officers to carry firearms in such locations, off-duty and retired law enforcement officers are still restricted from doing so under LEOSA unless they have a firearms license issued from the state in which they reside
Bottom line unless you are a sworn law enforcement officer (MP, CID, SP, NCIS, ect) or a civilian LEO, active or retired, LEOSA is not going to apply.
Im not a lawyer, not a LEOSA expert, but I did research it for my own personal use.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
SFC Ralph E Kelley
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SSG Jacen Black SGM Erik Marquez This has been an enlightening discussion.
My County's Jailer and Sheriff were of similar opinion that I fall under LEOSA, since due to line of duty injury. They also saw something I had forgotten about - in 1993 after I Army retired I was an armed (weapon/taser/pepper-spray qualified) Jail Prisoner Escort, I did Constable duties with process summonses/subpoenas and I did stints of bailiff duty for 20 months. That job along with nine years I mentioned earlier put me above the 10+ years the county requires for approval. The County's Judge Executive approved me the aggregate of 10+ years (Kentucky LEIO service can be a combination law enforcement entities) for my Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act (LEOSA) Application.
Since it takes 90+ days for the processing of the ID Application we will see what shakes out.
I will have to requalify my weapon, taser and pepper spray certifications + i may have picked up an escort contract out to California and return come next May 2022. I would last as long as the court case takes - expected to be between 3 weeks and 2 months. That would be a win-win (for me anyway).
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGM Erik Marquez
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SFC Ralph E Kelley - Well there you go, hope it works out for you
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
SFC Ralph E Kelley
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SGM Erik Marquez - Me too. Thanks for the information - it generated a lot pf responses and views which helped everyone decide on 'How-To' make it work. If it doesn't get approved - No skin lost. Again thanks.
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SSG Jacen Black
SSG Jacen Black
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SFC Ralph E Kelley - That's great to hear. I hope everything works out for you. I do have one thing to mention, be careful how you utilize your LEOSA creds. In some states, (i would say most actually), you can not use any sort of conceal carry licensing to perform any type of security work. While I do have my LEOSA creds, i'm a federal contractor for security and also do PPO work. In order for me to do those, I have to be certified by my state to perform armed security work in general and PPO work specifically.

Any type of work I perform outside my state is because i'm a licensed commissioned security officer, not because I have LEOSA creds.
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CPO William Glen (W.G.) Powell
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The LEOSA permit is applied for at the sheriffs office in the county where you live in the same way your state CCDW permit would be. You have to provide a letter from your organization that you re tired from and you have to shoot whatever the CCDW qualification course is in the state where you live. This permit is only good for one year and you will have to renew it annually.
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CPO William Glen (W.G.) Powell
CPO William Glen (W.G.) Powell
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CW3 a retired officer has to have credentials and must complete the state CCDW qualification shoot if there is one, not entire course that he/she lives in. We have an eight hour course in KY. In the Application process. In state of IN they only run a background check. It will be depending on state the retiree lives in. I have taught the KY course for about 15 years and have handled 6 or 7 LEOSA quals. Only minimally knowledgeable about the military’s version.
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1SG John Mohon
1SG John Mohon
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In California, there is bo LEOSA permit. You either qualify or not and if you do, your agency provides the creds. I’ve been carrying since I med retired from my first agency in 1994. I do qualify annually with that agency, although I now live in another state. It’s worth the drive.
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SSG Bruce Booker
SSG Bruce Booker
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That is a local procedure that applies in only some places.
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CPO William Glen (W.G.) Powell
CPO William Glen (W.G.) Powell
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As I understand the LEOSA permit for LE personnel which is a Federal permit is subject to the requirements of the state CCDW permit programs. And in the states where the are no state programs the LEOSA permit only needs to be applied for through local LE channels. There is a federal statute as well that covers actively serving LE personnel Nation wide that supports those people and not needing an additional permit to carry concealed as long as they have an active badge in their pocket so to speak.
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SGT (Join to see) any suggestions?
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SGT Whatever Needs Doing.
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