Posted on Jun 17, 2020
CPL(P) Combat Medic
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I just enlisted into the National Guard as a 68W Combat Medic after a break in service. I'm currently set to go to an Aviation Unit with the goal of becoming a Critical Care Flight Paramedic. I'm also looking to the future, after this current enlistment I want to have finished my BSN and track a route to commissioned officer. Is anyone currently in these fields that could give me some pointers on the directions I should be taking. Also if anybody knows what specific focuses a CC Nurse can have. i.e. (are there Critical Care Flight Nurses in the Army?)
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MAJ Byron Oyler
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Nurses do not PCS into a critical care flight nurse job, it is something you prepare for and deploy into. Your primary role would be staffing in an ICU. Now I do believe the enlisted paramedics are assigned in a permanent flight role but really you are not going to see much action anywhere outside of a CONUS based MEDCEN. There is some great training out there but we are just not getting into contact with the enemy in large volumes. My best experience has come out of the MICU at BAMC taking care of mostly retirees on CRRT and ECMO. If you go into nursing, don't expect in the military to go straight to ICU or ER because you have your paramedic. Army Nursing really does not care about your prehospital experience. It helped get me floated to the ICU in Germany during the second battle of Fallujah in Germany but I really did not get to where I wanted to be until the Critical Care Course. Dont get me wrong, it has been a great experience and I have gone from EMT-EMT-I-RN-Critical Care and ER RN to paramedic but the military does not care as much as civilian flight nurse jobs. Some civilian jobs want you dual certified. I am dual licensed in TX, RN and Licensed Paramedic and work part time as a paramedic for AMR.

Pointers, get good at what you want to be good at and realize being good needs experience, not a bunch of certs, licenses, and alphabet soup. I have my CCRN, CEN, and only needed 76 questions to pass my paramedic board. All that really tells you is that I am a good test taker. Some of my best experiences was working as a burn technician at a regional burn center and in the ER during nursing school. Get very good at anatomy and physiology because there have been times I did not really know the answer to a question but knew my anatomy well enough to answer it. Crackles in the lungs, what side of the heart causes this? If you know your cardio-pulm circulation, you can answer this. MAJ (Join to see) Probably has some good insight for you as well.
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Thank You Sir for the insight, just to make sure I'm tracking you correctly. I should become proficient in my knowledge for starters. I am going to be starting green again with the highest level of training being AEMT. I have been in Law Enforcement the last few years but I'm wanting to get back to healthcare. After some researching and soul searching I've decided Nursing would be the way to go. I have had some E911, hospital, and transport experience as an EMT but I'm looking for the next step. My goal is to get RN before my contract is up so I can leave LE and gain some on the job knowledge before going active.

Thank you for sharing your career experiences with me.
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I was an LPN before getting my RN degree. Depending on your status, active vs reserves, changes how to go about getting critical care experience. As a civilian many times you can get directly hired and trained in some ICU but not as an active duty new RN. And even after the first year or so you will not be guarantee critical care training on active duty. I got off active duty the first time as an LPN and then went through RN school. After I got my ASN I got a job in trauma, neuro, and cardiac ICU. Completed my BSN while working there. Came back commissioned on active duty and all my civilian training transferred over and made me a critical care nurse (while in anesthesia school).
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Thank you Sir, I do plan on getting LPN asap so I can get into the field and gain some experience. With my experiences so far as an EMT, I find that I like trauma the best. I am well rounded as an EMT but, traumatic injuries attracted me the most. I do have at least 6 years to do with the guard as a 68W, so I'm going to use this as a base for furthering my career.
Thank You both for taking time to give me insight.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
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CPL(P) (Join to see) - A lot of people do it the way MAJ (Join to see) did and are successful however the toughest job I have done in the Army is charge nurse on an 18 bed ICU. If you think you are only going to ever manage 1-3 patients, then that route is fine. Coming out of nursing school I had been an EMT for ten years, was an intermediate, worked in the ER during school, and felt I was ready to go right in as an ER nurse. I would have succeeded but I do not think they would have set me up for managing a large ICU and then as a nursing supervisor for an entire medical center. There are a lot of ways to skin this cat and today it is hard to know where exactly your career will be in 10-20 years. I wanted to do CRNA like Keith but then realized I like being out in the community and my FNP will better serve what I want to do. Lifestyle is very different but I like that. I enjoy right now working part-time as a paramedic only making $17/hr. Keith probably makes that on call in his pajamas at home. I started your journey at age 17 and can say without a doubt, it is the best decision I made during my teenage years.
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Army has JECC - joint enroute care course, focus is trauma rescue missions with dustoff. If possible knockout nursing school while In the guard or start the process. This all depends on your unit’s flexibility and tempo then direct commission as a 66H. Apply for CCN course after a few years as an LT, become a 66S and go from there. There are multiple ways to approach, just don’t be discouraged, keep it up and don’t give up - Goodluck !
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Thank you for the advice Sir, I will definitely keep my options open.
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Seek out an AMEDD recruiter. They can give you specifics on the programs. Also if you’re interested in going active duty the army has a nursing program you could apply to and be active duty as an officer completing it. I had a few of these students in my direct commissioning course with me.
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Thanks CPT, I'll be sure to get into contact with them. I am considering going back to active duty after my NG time.
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