Posted on Aug 12, 2017
LCpl Dakota Worrick
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I went to my chain of command over some depression like we were told to and instead of getting help i was admin. sep'd. I got out with a RE-04 Honorable discharge and have recently (last 6 months) acted on the nawing in my gut telling me there HAS to be SOME way to reenlist back into the world's finest fighting force. I have talked to my local recruiter and I am aware that the odds are slim but that there is a possibility to get it changed to an RE-03. My question is, has anyone any experience with such things and how do you go about making the best case? My recruiter will work with me but is not quite sure what steps to take. Just that i must submit DD form 149 and/or 249.
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SGM Matthew Quick
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You can apply to the Discharge Review Board (DRB) of your branch of the service for a discharge upgrade or a change in the discharge reason (that is, character of service). To get your discharge upgraded or your character of service changed, you will have to show that your discharge was “improper" or "inequitable."

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-get-military-discharge-upgrade.html
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LCpl Dakota Worrick
LCpl Dakota Worrick
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Thank you, SGM. I'll look more into that.
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SSgt David Tedrow
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RE-04 is usually for people discharged with non-wavierable conditions. This makes it extremely hard to get back in as you would need a wavier on a non-wavierable condition. The only way would to be able to prove that the condition you were discharged for was false or no longer exists. There is going to be a lot of red tape and you are going to have to get medical documentation that you either never had the condition or no longer have the condition you were discharged for.
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LCpl Dakota Worrick
LCpl Dakota Worrick
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I can definitely do that and am willing to do anything it takes.
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LCpl Dakota Worrick
LCpl Dakota Worrick
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I am able to prove the condition no longer exists and i am confident my deteemination will carry me to a favorable outcome. From what my recruiter says most dont get approved because they get tired of waiting and quit, they don't prepare their case properly, or they had bad conduct while in service. I know my chances are still slim to none but i have to at least try. This means everything to me. I could kick 18yr old me in the pants. But that's in the past. All i can do is give this my best and then some, and if it doesn't work out, ill try again. And if it doesnt work out, then ill try again until they tell me to piss off.
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1LT Quartermaster Officer
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LCpl Dakota Worrick - just an FYI, if you cannot return to federal service, check into your state's State Guard. They often directly support the State National Guard on missions, allow you to continue to wear the military uniform, and offer camaraderie with other veterans. http://sgaus.org/states/commanders/
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SGM Erik Marquez
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"RE-4 Individuals separated from last period of service with a nonwaivable disqualification . Disqualification is nonwaivable."
That said, HRC has this to say.


"RE Codes
Question: Can the Army Discharge Review Board change my Reentry Eligibility (RE) code?
Answer: The RE code (Reentry Eligibility code) is determined by the reason for separation, not the character of separation.

According to Army Regulation 601-210 (Regular Army and Army Reserve Enlistment Program), the Reentry Eligibility (RE) code can only be changed if an incorrect code was entered. For this type of correction, please send a letter and a copy of your DD Form 214 to the following address requesting the correction:

Commander
US Army Human Resources Command
Attention: Retention Branch (AHRC-EPF)
1600 Spearhead Division Drive, Dept 365
Fort Knox, KY 40121
The RE code is not upgraded to allow enlistment. Soldiers separated with an RE-3 or RE-4 code must seek a waiver from a recruiter to enlist. Depending on the type of discharge and disqualification, a waiver may not be possible.

If however, a former Soldier can provide evidence that the RE code is an error or unjust, the former Soldier may apply to the Army Board for Correction of Military Records for a correction of the RE code. If the former Soldier can provide evidence that their discharge character or reason for discharge issued in the last 15 years are erroneous or unjust, the former Soldier can apply to the Army Discharge Review Board for a discharge review and request that their RE code be changed according to the correct reason for discharge.

The former Soldier may complete an online application at http://actsonline.army.mil and send the signature page and evidence as instructed by the online program ' or - may print a blank DD Form from the Army Review Boards Agency website at http://arba.army.pentagon.mil/ fill in the requested information, and mail it to the address shown on the reverse of the form. Please provide copies of all relevant military records in your possession and any evidence to support your request."
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LCpl Dakota Worrick
LCpl Dakota Worrick
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Does all of that pretain to Marines as well?
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGM Erik Marquez
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LCpl Dakota Worrick - In general with different processing. The marines have a discharge review board, but like the army..Its not available to change a RE code just because the member asks or says they have changed since discharge and deserve a second chance (which happens, SM grow up, mature, life stress ors that distracted them change or they learn to overcome).. It is to correct an erroneous or unfair discharge.
For instance, in the late 90's early 2000's Service members were being discharged on a personality disorder based on actions.. When really the actions were based on PTSD, and thus should not have been discharged in that way.
Those folks could petition the discharge review board to have a discharge upgraded or an RE code change, based on proof the wrong discharge or RE code was issued.
Or a clerical error that went unnoticed at discharge ..SM given an honorable at completion or service term, should have been a RE3, but DD214 had RE3B
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What do I need to do to help my recruiter get me back into the USMC with an RE-04 Honorable discharge?
LtCol Robert Quinter
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Look up the Naval Discharge Review Board and read their purpose and scope. They specifically cite that they do not change the nature of a discharge to allow for enlistment, but are empowered to change the RE code if they find it was inappropriately issued due the criteria at the time. All that said, I'd get a psych eval that states you do not present the condition that caused your release and an explanation of what happened to change the situation. Submit the eval with the enlistment package along with a personal statement of what has changed that resulted in your change of condition.
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LCpl Dakota Worrick
LCpl Dakota Worrick
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Rodger. Thank you, sir.
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LtCol Robert Quinter
LtCol Robert Quinter
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LCpl Dakota Worrick - If you really want to be gutsy, once your package is prepared, work through your recruiter for an audience with the recruiting officer and/or the Commanding Officer of the Marine Corps District that your recruiter works under.
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LCpl Dakota Worrick
LCpl Dakota Worrick
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Ha! Might as well i suppose.
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MSgt Marshall Schiller
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An RE-4 reenlistment code in the Corps is not eligible to reenlist, and no waivers are authorized UNLESS the code was assigned for homosexuality.

Explanation: RE-4
Ineligible for reenlistment.
Note 1: Prior service applicants issued a Reenlistment code of RE-4 (or equivalent) upon separation, solely for homosexual conduct may be eligible for re-enlistment/enlistment. (Note: Member's record must be reviewed to assure the sole supported reason for processing was for Homosexual Act(s), Conduct, or Marriage). The following applies:

Eligibility Requirements.
Applicant's prior service DD 214 (most recent) must reflect a narrative reason of Homosexual Act, Homosexual Conduct, or Homosexual Marriage in block 28.
One of the following Separation Codes (SPD) must be in block 26: GRA, GRB, GRC, HRA, HRB, or HRC.
Character of Service must be Honorable (no other misconduct was a basis for their discharge).
Processing Procedures.
Prior service applicants that meet the eligibility criteria listed in item one of this note may be accepted for further processing. All prior service applications accepted for enlistment/reenlistment with an RE-4 (or equivalent) due to homosexual conduct will be processed as any RE-code listed in the chart above labeled "Eligible to Enlist" with just an enlistment eligibility (rate and pay grade) determination (not an RE-Code waiver).
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1LT Quartermaster Officer
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LCpl Dakota Worrick - did you serve in combat? Your profile is incomplete. The answer to this question will lead to certain types of answers.
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LCpl Dakota Worrick - See the link below from dfas[dot]mil on medical retirement. I would suggest, that as your discharge is Honorable, as you state, you may want to seek assistance and review with someone well versed in a medical finding for discharge as a possible reason for medical retirement. There are professionals in military law who may be able to help you. https://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/disability.html
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LCpl Dakota Worrick
LCpl Dakota Worrick
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1LT (Join to see) - thank you sir. You've been very helpful. I am currently looking into this. And no i was never fortunate enough to deploy so no combat for me. I will update profile as soon as i have access to a computer. For some reason my phone will not save
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LCpl Mike Frost
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RE4 is really a standard response to any mental illness (depression, PTSD, anxiety, having a higher IQ than average, etc) and after you spend a lot of time and money it is unlikely to be reversed. I'm sorry that the service has chosen to brand you in this way but my advice is to look to the future and decide how your willingness to serve can be applied outside of the military or other uniformed service. If you go down the appeal pathway, you are likely to spend thousands of dollars, become even more torn up inside, and waste years that could be more productive in furthering your education and civillian career options. The feeling of belonging will return in time through the veteran community eventually. I wish you well but caution against allowing this disservice to define you.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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I am sorry but I am dying of curiousity here. Granted I served in the 1980's but back then you really had to do a LOT MORE than report a condition to get a RE-4 code. What exactly did you do additionally beyond reporting the depression? Did you go into a treatment program? Did you refuse duty? What?
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LCpl Dakota Worrick
LCpl Dakota Worrick
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I did not refuse duty. After reporting depression i was put in a hospital for 3 days to be observed. I know it was peobably protocol but they treated me like i was going to kill myself/others even though the psychiatrist they sent me to said that wasnt the case. I did everything i was told to in order to receive "help" for it and then i get told I'm to be admin sep'd.
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SP5 Peter Keane
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Not to throw water on this, but I couldn't get an RE2 changed. It was issued for an Educational Early Release.
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CSM Charles Hayden
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Like the military enjoys dumping people. I am sorry the Corps did not have the fortitude to address the problem you reported!
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