Posted on Jun 20, 2015
What do you make of Camp Lejuene's recent crackdown on the display of DOD vehicle decals?
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Officials at one of the country's largest Marine bases are doubling down on efforts to get troops to comply with vehicle decal requirements despite several Defense Department-wide warnings to service members and their families to conceal their military affiliations following recent terror threats.
Marine officials at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, issued an advisory reminding all personnel working or stationed aboard the base to properly display DoD vehicle decals. Going without may result in a ticket, according to Lejeune officials, who say recent heightened security measures have revealed that many on base don't comply with the decal requirement.
The policy, which applies to the whole Marine Corps, contrasts with guidance issued by the Pentagon's Force Protection Agency to all DoD personnel in October in response to threats from the Islamic State group. The agency recommended that all DoD personnel "remove any [military] decals or identifiers from clothing and vehicles."
This decal requirement has become increasingly controversial. Because of the stickers' prominent windshield placement and the information they convey, some believe they jeopardize the safety of troops and their families instead of protecting it.
The Navy got rid of vehicle decals in 2013, citing similar security concerns. The Army and Air Force have also dispensed with them. A decision regarding the Corps' decals policy is pending at Marine Corps Installations Command, but officials say no new rules have been implemented yet.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/06/19/decal-confusion-prompts-policy-crackdown-lejeune/28858437/
Marine officials at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, issued an advisory reminding all personnel working or stationed aboard the base to properly display DoD vehicle decals. Going without may result in a ticket, according to Lejeune officials, who say recent heightened security measures have revealed that many on base don't comply with the decal requirement.
The policy, which applies to the whole Marine Corps, contrasts with guidance issued by the Pentagon's Force Protection Agency to all DoD personnel in October in response to threats from the Islamic State group. The agency recommended that all DoD personnel "remove any [military] decals or identifiers from clothing and vehicles."
This decal requirement has become increasingly controversial. Because of the stickers' prominent windshield placement and the information they convey, some believe they jeopardize the safety of troops and their families instead of protecting it.
The Navy got rid of vehicle decals in 2013, citing similar security concerns. The Army and Air Force have also dispensed with them. A decision regarding the Corps' decals policy is pending at Marine Corps Installations Command, but officials say no new rules have been implemented yet.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/06/19/decal-confusion-prompts-policy-crackdown-lejeune/28858437/
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I suppose that I can answer the question about “What do you make of Camp Lejeune’s recent crackdown on the display of DOD vehicle decals?” better than most because some years ago I helped do a study on counterterrorism security and one of my recommendations was to do away with all the Department of Defense stickers. The reason is that in my professional opinion all they actually accomplished was to put targets on service members, dependents and civilian employees. I live in Northern Virginia and there are so many civilian government employees and civilian contractors around here that if you randomly toss a brick you will hit one of them and these people wear their security badges all the time. That does not count the politicians they breed just like rats!
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Has the DOD thought about visor signs? They can be attached and then flipped up out of sight. They can also be tied to an LPR. That way costs are reduced; cars are not readily ID'd; and you can then spend funds for scanning ID cards with Facial Recognition for base entry. Sounds like the DOD needs a sign guy/project manager to design; implement; and control-modify as conditions change.
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The DOD Decal is no longer required at Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, Ca. All you need is your DOD ID Card.
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I can see the concern from a security stand point as to not having them in plain view, but there are visor attachments that allow for a non visible aspect while off base but can display them while on. On a further note, I wear my retired hats and shirts with pride! If they really want a piece of me let's see what they chew on, I currently live in a state that allows open carry.
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Because of fact that the enemy is encouraging lone wolf attacks on US Military Personnel my opinion would to be get rid of the decals and to increase the training in conducting a proper security screen. Training is the key to security not stickers.
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They need to make everyone scrape them off......they provide unnecessary intel to potential "bad guys".....so the gate slows down a little bit....who cares leave for work a little sooner.
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This to me is hilarious. The Air Force did away with base decals years ago and there has been no anarchy resulting in Airman Basic's parking in General officer parking spots. Seriously, get it together and lose the decals.
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Just get rid of the decals and save the money. I was glad to get rid my decals when I left Fort Hood, TX.
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DoD Decals assist the Base security personnel in making sure that vehicles on closed bases at least were registered by someone that is supposed to be there.
I understand that DoD wants to lower the visibility of military affiliation due to terrorist threats, HOWEVER, before blaming the DoD Registration Sticker, should we not remove the "201 File" off the back windows of our vehicles? Like on my Jeep, I have 82d AIRBORNE Division on the back glass, a set of Master Jump Wings, 82d Airborne Licence Plate frame and a "US Army Retired" North Carolina Licence plate.
Yep, you can remove the little base decal, but there are more Target Indicators on us and our vehicles than just the DoD Sticker.
Maybe and I am just guessing here, MAYBE, we should all be allowed to grow a beard and have long hair like we were a Sikh! With long hair and a beard, we would NOT look so much like a Soldier as we do with High and Tights and a sharply trimmed mustache. JUST SAYING.....
I understand that DoD wants to lower the visibility of military affiliation due to terrorist threats, HOWEVER, before blaming the DoD Registration Sticker, should we not remove the "201 File" off the back windows of our vehicles? Like on my Jeep, I have 82d AIRBORNE Division on the back glass, a set of Master Jump Wings, 82d Airborne Licence Plate frame and a "US Army Retired" North Carolina Licence plate.
Yep, you can remove the little base decal, but there are more Target Indicators on us and our vehicles than just the DoD Sticker.
Maybe and I am just guessing here, MAYBE, we should all be allowed to grow a beard and have long hair like we were a Sikh! With long hair and a beard, we would NOT look so much like a Soldier as we do with High and Tights and a sharply trimmed mustache. JUST SAYING.....
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SSgt Dale W.
SSG Roger Ayscue "The policy, which applies to the whole Marine Corps, contrasts with guidance issued by the Pentagon's Force Protection Agency to all DoD personnel in October in response to threats from the Islamic State group. The agency recommended that all DoD personnel "remove any [military] decals or identifiers from clothing and vehicles.""
Let's add a few more identifiers to the mix. Hair & mustache, you stole my thunder.
Uniforms off base?
How about military bearing & posture?
Outside CONUS, let's ban American clothing and mandate all personnel learn to speak with the local accent to blend in.
I saw the same type of thing in Europe in the 80's. I thought they were feel good measures then and I feel the same way now. With a few exceptions, (certain SF units), Americans are recognizable as Americans in a foreign locale, be they military or civilian. Here at home, the same applies to Service Members.
Let's add a few more identifiers to the mix. Hair & mustache, you stole my thunder.
Uniforms off base?
How about military bearing & posture?
Outside CONUS, let's ban American clothing and mandate all personnel learn to speak with the local accent to blend in.
I saw the same type of thing in Europe in the 80's. I thought they were feel good measures then and I feel the same way now. With a few exceptions, (certain SF units), Americans are recognizable as Americans in a foreign locale, be they military or civilian. Here at home, the same applies to Service Members.
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