What do you think about the wear of uniforms off post?
I say take off the uniform unless it is ASUs then wear it to bed for all I care.
As a man with a wife and kids. I can see why you will leave your uniform on after "work".
These days people with families and active kids just do not have the time to come home change then run errands. From taking the kids to practice to picking up the kids from daycare. A service member's day in just non stop when you have a family.
At Hood most people get off at 1700 and depending on where you live its already a pain to get off post and get to Killeen and Harker Heights so if I need to stop and get something that is just what I do. It takes some people 30mins to get home from Hood so I can see just grabbing the kids and going straight to practice.
As long as you are in the correct uniform and wearing it properly I do not see an issue.
What irks my nerves are civilians wearing the Army APFT shirt with civilian clothes and cut off sleeves. Now I wish there was something to do about that.
The Navy didn't, previously, distinguish between "going on liberty" and going home. Only emergency stops were authorized. I'm glad they've fixed that.
But, in the end, the best liberty uniform is civilian clothes.
- 1990s. Unauthorized. Main reason being leaders did not want civilians seeing military in the local Wal Mart at 1400 when they should have been at work. Authorized for wear only when going straight to or from off post housing.
- 2000s. Authorized to wear off post and even encouraged to wear while commercial flying so as to self advertise the military and gain civilian awareness for the 99% of the population that has never served.
- 2014/2015. No longer authorized when commercial flying. Local installation rules vary but becoming more unauthorized. Several reasons but 1990 reasons coming into play as well as ISIS encouragement of targeting of military personnel and their families in the homeland. Like overseas, best to blend in with the crowd.
- My thoughts. Continue to leave the decision to installation commanders so they can react to local situations and threats. Internal military reasons go to good order and discipline and risk assessment among others. External reasons go to how we want the civilian population to see and perceive the military. The external reasons can not and should not be discounted and are just as, if not more important, than then internal reasons.l
We lost something with the ACU uniform. I think it may have been the responsibility and discipline it required to "be the best that you can be."
I really miss it :(
“It is absurd to believe that soldiers who cannot be made to wear the proper uniform can be induced to move forward in battle. Officers who fail to perform their duty by correcting small violations and in enforcing proper conduct are incapable of leading.”
- General George S. Patton
Also, recruiters wear uniforms "off post" every day in the line of duty. Should they stop wearing their uniforms, too?
Depending on OPSEC, there were times overseas where we were not allowed to wear a uniform off base. We needed to change before leaving the base. While it may have made some sense, there were also times where it was not feasible like going from one base to another is across the street or down the road. This was a big waste of time in between meetings.
When I joined the Coast Guard, we were required to wear the appropriate dress uniform (Trops for warm weather and Service Dress for cold) if we were off base. The only time our Working Blue & now the ODUs were to be worn was on the base or underway. The expectation was that when in public we were representing our service and we should present a sharp military appearance.
However, the rules have changed, and now ODUs are authorized for transit to/from work and stops for gas along with fast food eateries. The problem is that we seem to have taken this as license to look like crap on a cracker, and to do whatever and go wherever in our utilities. There's no pride in the uniform. No apparent effort to create the appearance of a military professional. Working on a joint base for seven of the last ten years, this seems to be universal among all of the services except for the Marines I have seen. Makes me wonder what they are doing that the remainder of us are not.
There is definitely something culturally different about how the vast majority of today's service members view their uniform and affiliation with their respective organizations as opposed to those of us on the tail end of our careers.

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