Posted on Nov 13, 2013
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This is a very serious topic that was discussed before by everyone of us here I am sure. Every base I have been there was a policy about when you could wear uniform off post. What do you think about this topic I would like to hear everyone's opinion
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COL Jon Thompson
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As long as you wear the uniform correctly and do not dishonor your branch of service, there is nothing wrong with wearing a uniform off post.  Each service has its own regulations so abide by those.  As a Reserve Officer who had to travel over an hour to my duty station, I would stop before or after my drills to run errands or get something to eat.  A lot of Americans like to see their service members in uniform and it can inspire younger Americans to serve.  I do think the key is to wear the uniform correctly and to not do anything that reflects poorly on you and your service. 
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PFC Jason Rodrigues
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Roger that Sir. I agree that as long as you are not out of regs, your uniform is squared away and you don't do anything to dishonor that uniform.
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It is hard to look professional in ACUs. It also lends more weight to the ACU being a professional uniform as opposed to a work or combat uniform.

I say take off the uniform unless it is ASUs then wear it to bed for all I care.
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SFC Bde Mobility Nco
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I see no reason to wear your uniform off post if you are a single soldier living in the barracks.
As a man with a wife and kids. I can see why you will leave your uniform on after "work".
These days people with families and active kids just do not have the time to come home change then run errands. From taking the kids to practice to picking up the kids from daycare. A service member's day in just non stop when you have a family.
At Hood most people get off at 1700 and depending on where you live its already a pain to get off post and get to Killeen and Harker Heights so if I need to stop and get something that is just what I do. It takes some people 30mins to get home from Hood so I can see just grabbing the kids and going straight to practice.
As long as you are in the correct uniform and wearing it properly I do not see an issue.
What irks my nerves are civilians wearing the Army APFT shirt with civilian clothes and cut off sleeves. Now I wish there was something to do about that.
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SFC Bde Mobility Nco
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Well I think back then people were getting drafted if I'm not mistaken. Since we are a volunteer force and provide an "outlet" for many Americans, young and old, people look at the service differently. Since people come in for different reasons and are not forced in that really takes away that stigma that was over the military back then. Just my opinion.
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SGT Internment/Resettlement Specialist
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Well put SFC.
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SFC Bde Mobility Nco
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Why thank you William lol
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LCDR Aerospace Engineering Duty, Maintenance (AMDO and AMO)
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Thank God SFC and I live in a world that does not stigmatize veterans (other than the fact that they seem to think we're all one step away from going on a PTSD-induced rampage - someone really needs to tell them that's not how that works).

The Navy didn't, previously, distinguish between "going on liberty" and going home. Only emergency stops were authorized. I'm glad they've fixed that.

But, in the end, the best liberty uniform is civilian clothes.
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I think it is convenient to wear the uniform off base (post) when eating lunch or running a quick errand during the day or even right after work.  Unfortunately, this could make you a target of opportunity.  It does provide an opportunity for civilians to socialize with veterans.  I don't mind seeing my fellow service members in uniform if they are behaving themselves :).
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It is our job as leaders to fix anything wrong we see ma'am
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What do you think about the wear of uniforms off post?
COL Jason Smallfield, PMP, CFM, CM
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Wear of the uniform off post has been authorized and unauthorized over the years for a variety of reasons.
- 1990s. Unauthorized. Main reason being leaders did not want civilians seeing military in the local Wal Mart at 1400 when they should have been at work. Authorized for wear only when going straight to or from off post housing.
- 2000s. Authorized to wear off post and even encouraged to wear while commercial flying so as to self advertise the military and gain civilian awareness for the 99% of the population that has never served.
- 2014/2015. No longer authorized when commercial flying. Local installation rules vary but becoming more unauthorized. Several reasons but 1990 reasons coming into play as well as ISIS encouragement of targeting of military personnel and their families in the homeland. Like overseas, best to blend in with the crowd.
- My thoughts. Continue to leave the decision to installation commanders so they can react to local situations and threats. Internal military reasons go to good order and discipline and risk assessment among others. External reasons go to how we want the civilian population to see and perceive the military. The external reasons can not and should not be discounted and are just as, if not more important, than then internal reasons.l
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Cpl Ray Fernandez
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I've never been a fan of wearing a uniform off base even for official functions. Too much hassle and too visible. Our utilities were only to be worn on base or while traveling to and from home. Our service uniforms were nice but very uncomfortable to wear for liberty. It would be obvious to anyone that we were in the military no matter what we wore, but it's another thing all together to stick out like a sore thumb.
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I think it is acceptable at times but for the most part (with ACUs) there is absolutely no pride taken in appearance. I remember growing up and seeing my dad in his freshly pressed uniform and now we look like we rolled out of bed and grabbed our boots out of a mud hole. If Soldiers took more pride in themselves and their affiliation I don't think it would be a huge issue.
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SFC Equal Opportunity Advisor
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I hear you on this one. I got my name tape rank skill badges us army all sowed on
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SFC Motor Transport Operator
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I agree, there is no pride in uniform anymore. I myself miss shining my boots and ironing my uniform but with acu's, that's no longer a case. I do also support the idea that after hours the uniform should come off, we don't need to pose out there as targets to those out there that are against us.
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SFC (Join to see), I agree. My dad would shine his boots for hours. When I was issued my BDUs, I would remember his example and take pride in my appearance.
We lost something with the ACU uniform. I think it may have been the responsibility and discipline it required to "be the best that you can be."
I really miss it :(
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SPC David S.
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Call me anal but I had my A uniform tailored and on a couple of ACU's had the seems sewn in. I had a busted zipper on my pants once as a cadet at the USAFA. Needless to say that did not go over so well and every since then I always ckecked my gig line.
“It is absurd to believe that soldiers who cannot be made to wear the proper uniform can be induced to move forward in battle. Officers who fail to perform their duty by correcting small violations and in enforcing proper conduct are incapable of leading.”
- General George S. Patton
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CW3 Chuck Huddleston
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I think that wearing the class "A" uniform off post is great, looks good and represents the military well. While 670-1 now allows the utility and camouflage uniforms to be worn in the public while shopping, eating, etc. off post, I think they look bad.
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SSG Terminal Operations Nco
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Would my drill hall be considered "off post" as it's not on a base? There are few bases near me, and in that case, I'd never wear a uniform, even at drill.
Also, recruiters wear uniforms "off post" every day in the line of duty. Should they stop wearing their uniforms, too?
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COL John Rosnow
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I agree with all of those that say you must wear it IAW proper regulations. In the US, I see a lot of people where their uniform to and from the office, and also if they stop off to get gas or pick something up at the store on the way home.

Depending on OPSEC, there were times overseas where we were not allowed to wear a uniform off base. We needed to change before leaving the base. While it may have made some sense, there were also times where it was not feasible like going from one base to another is across the street or down the road. This was a big waste of time in between meetings.
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CMC Robert Young
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When I joined the Coast Guard, we were required to wear the appropriate dress uniform (Trops for warm weather and Service Dress for cold) if we were off base. The only time our Working Blue & now the ODUs were to be worn was on the base or underway. The expectation was that when in public we were representing our service and we should present a sharp military appearance.

 

However, the rules have changed, and now ODUs are authorized for transit to/from work and stops for gas along with fast food eateries. The problem is that we seem to have taken this as license to look like crap on a cracker, and to do whatever and go wherever in our utilities. There's no pride in the uniform. No apparent effort to create the appearance of a military professional. Working on a joint base for seven of the last ten years, this seems to be universal among all of the services except for the Marines I have seen. Makes me wonder what they are doing that the remainder of us are not.

 

There is definitely something culturally different about how the vast majority of today's service members view their uniform and affiliation with their respective organizations as opposed to those of us on the tail end of our careers.

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