Posted on Jun 26, 2015
CPL Brian Clouser
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LTC John Shaw
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LTC John Shaw
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This policy is different than the past policy as it adds the qualifier of 'outside US controlled areas'. If I was still in Kandahar Afghanistan, which is a NATO base I would ask for clarification. It seems like even non Muslim service members must fast during Ramadan.
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PO1 John Miller
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Nothing new. It has been like this at least as long as my first deployment back in 1993. It's not a restriction put in place by the military, it's put in by the host nation.

Another exception is if you're on a US-controlled base, such as ASU Bahrain. As long as you remain on base you can eat and drink as much as you want during Ramadan.
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PO1 John Miller
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But did you leave base/go outside the wire CPL Brian Clouser?
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CPL Brian Clouser
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PO1 John Miller - Yes I did go outside the 'wire' in 88,89, in 03 I basically lived outside the wire and in 07,08 only on mission. The point is the military is forcing the troops to fast for the sake of P.C. I don't see the "leaders" making the troops fasting during a Jewish holiday. This government is putting Islam above all other religions
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PO1 John Miller
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CPL Brian Clouser, I wasn't calling you out but I could see how my comment might have been taken that way so I apologize for that.

With that said, what I was getting at was this. I remember when I was in Bahrain during Ramadan back in 2010 or 2012 (deployments start to blur together after a while, LOL), we were allowed to go out in town/leave the base, but only after sundown and we couldn't drink. If we wanted to drink or eat during the day we had to do so on base.

My point is, while the military IS becoming WAY TOO politically correct I don't think this was a US military or US government call.
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CPL Brian Clouser
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PO1 John Miller - No need to apologize, I was just explaining the when and how that I was outside the wire. It's upset me that military would impose something like that. Its wrong on some many levels. I have been to several countries and when I was off post, I always respected the local customs and I try to learn them BUT I did this on my own. Even during Shock and Awe, we respected the Iraqis and in turn they respected us,Ok I'm getting off subject. I do agree with you about the military getting too P.C. Unfortunately I believe that it will get people killed. Pray that I'm wrong
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No way, really?
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SFC Craig Dalen
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We should not have to change or way of life or habits because of someone else's.
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SSG Laureano Pabon
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Would this mean that the mess hall would be close throughout this as well and not feed SM 3 meals a day as guaranteed?
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