Posted on Aug 4, 2017
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When you have a SM that will not go to the school needed to promote (WLC, ALC, SLC) and is holding a slot that prevents others below him/her from promoting.
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1SG Clifford Barnes
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I feel that its the soldiers option.. Some soldiers enjoy their job and are happy whee they are. Promotions in that MOS are few and far between. I have that MOSand it was really hard. I have also met soldiers don't won't the responsibility that goes with higher rank. Talk to the individual and see there feelings. Being a retired 1SG and encourage all my soldiers to strive for bigger and better things in their career.
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1SG Donald Elmore
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I would say that the individual needs to be moved to a lower slot and if not promoted after a certain time, that individual not be allowed to re-enlist. I served in many slots above my pay grade and got promoted in a timely manner. I went to all classes that my Superiors wanted me to go to.
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PV2 Carlos Molano
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i was in the black boot army back then it was by merit,time in grade ,
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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Based on what you said and the description you gave, what I think should be done is have the Army show that Soldier the door to assist them in seeking like elsewhere.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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I look at this in a couple ways. Our system is a meritocracy. We are raised to go for that next position, that next promotion. Either by way of a dim view of their abilities from low self confidence or a truly informed understanding of their shortfalls, some do not pursue leadership or promotion.

I had a case in a unit I commanded where a soldier who did not want the responsibility, was forced to board for E5. Points dropped to 450. Poof. Sergeant, on a deployment he was stop lossed into. He would later clash with his leadership and got his wish. Back to E4. No one won there.

I think what you do varies case to case. A bar to reenlist is certainly a tool. Clears things up quick. Admin reductions could be another. Real authentic communication with raters and senior raters and the rated soldier is important to figure out what next.

I understand this has a direct impact on others in the unit in the NG, but in he AD formations, you simply PCSnto a new opportunity.
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SSG Transportation Management Coordinator
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Awesome question! This isn't much an issue in the reserves, but I have heard horror stories about that in the National Guard. In the reservist world, I wouldn't see it as much of an issue if someone wasn't ready to move up. I don't want someone not ready or willing to move higher in the leadership be promoted and appointed over me. That being said, I believe that the National Guard should make it easier to move up and promote. If that means removing those who do not want to promote, then so be it. No reason to hold back the great Soldiers looking to advance because someone who doesn't have the drive to progress doesn't.
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SGT, my entire career with the Army has been with the National Guard in 3 different states. Depending on your MOS, it can be extremely difficult to promote. Some MOSs max out at a certain rank and soldiers stay in that position for way too long once they get to that particular rank. Therefore, there is no possibility for the younger ones to move up unless that person somehow leaves that position (usually retirement) or you decide to move to another unit or MOS. That being said, I believe it depends a lot on the leadership and what their expectations are. If the leadership pushes for soldiers to be qualified for their rank, you can rest assured that movement will happen, although not as fast as you would like.
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Cpl Justin Goolsby
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Well, I don't know about the Army, but the Marine Corps will remove you if you aren't upward moving in the ranks. They might not give you the boot right away, but when it comes time to re-up, that package isn't being approved. They really enforce that once you hit E-5 though, because E-1 - E-4 you're either on your 1st or 2nd enlistment. But once you hit 10 years in, if you get passed over for promotion twice, you're basically done for.
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