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A1C Lexas Granger
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Their attention towards this issue has been shifted towards acceptance of all individuals, legal and illegal immigrants, LGBTQ+ issues and their rights, abortion and it’s legality or abortion being illegal, Trump and his agenda he’s trying to push, environmental concerns and issues, and other things.

Although a “One Service Camouflaged Uniform” would save money in production and distribution. This topic is trivialized by other concerns. Also remember the cost goes to the lowest bidder and they may not be satisfied by their vendors choices in styles of uniform.

To be fair I feel each service should use variations of the multi-cam uniforms to distinguish between branches of service. Different patterns that is, using the same color pallets as each other. Then think about effectiveness in combat and job specific needs. Then formulate a good balance for every branch.

Ta-da. I give you the solution.
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It's hard to find my previous comments but one of my solutions was to do something similar with the BDU/DCU era. Same camo for every branches but every branch will keep their uniform cut design. Army ACU is completely different in design (not the camo) conpared to the Air Force ABU (tradition BDU cut) and the Marine MCCUU. This also includes bringing back terrain specific camo instead of one universal fit.
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A1C Lexas Granger
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I liked the old tiger camo, personally, but BDU/DCUs we’re phased out I would assume for ineffective ability to conceal troop movements, or formation. I’m not sure, and I haven’t looked into reasons why they were phased out. Though the solution should come from former troops, not Congress. We understand very well what we need to be a utility of our branch.
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Cpl Mortarman
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MARPAT is the best in my opinion
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MARPAT is awesome and it works. There are better offerings nowedays from companies like ADS and A-tacs. IMO I have to put partial blame on the Marines because they "patented" their design and didn't want to share with anyone else. Interesting thing is they just took the Canadian CADPAT camo design and changed the color to make MARPAT, even though the Canadians were in a sense the first ones to have a digital camo pattern for uniforms since like the late '90s. Camo history and origin is interesting to learn and read upon. I personally still admire the old OD, BDU and DCU patterns.
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MSgt Nathan Krawitz
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Here's an idea. Figure out the best pattern for the environment. Whoever is in that environment gets uniforms in that patter. Right now, there is one pattern for Afghanistan. Expand the concept.

It might result in multiple patterns, but uniformity. On a ship? Multiple shades of gray. Anyone doing anything topside gets the pattern. This involves Army on their boats and Marines as ship's company. In the snow? White and off whites. In the desert? Tans. In woods? Greens. Working stateside on base? Varying shades of urban patterns, or adopt one of other existing patterns as appropriate.

It's just a pattern. Each branch can build the uniform as it sees fit.
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A1C Security Forces
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The Army has OCP’s. They Air Force followed behind them and just recently started switching to them, the navy (from what one of my buddies in the navy) said they were gonna switch to OCP’s within the next 2-3 years (thank god because they have some weird looking uniforms now), aaaand idk about the marines, I think they are gonna stick with their MARPAT that they have. Idk about the coast guard... they do their own thing.
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LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
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Coasties where just a plain old blue BDU style uniform
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MSgt Michael Bischoff
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SPC(P) Carlos Santini
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What was wrong with the original uniforms?? All they needed to do was update the material or pockets and kept the same camo.
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CW3 Dick McManus
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Irrefutable Scientific Evidence - The 9/11 Official Story is Total BS


The World Trade Center complex owned by Larry Silverstein required at least $200 million to remove the asbestos fire proofing. He had tried to get the New York City government to allow the demolition of them, but the city refused due to the health risk from asbestos and risk the people and the neighborhood surrounding the building. Also the win Towers needed $5.6 billion in repairs to prevent galvanic ally corroded bolts from shedding aluminum cladding onto pedestrians below and killing pedestrians walking nearby.

Silverstein was paid $4.577 billion from insurance companies for buildings 1, 2, 4, and 5. Silverstein made $1.33 billion profit from his insurance on this ownership of WTC buildings as a result of the incident. for these buildings. Given that when Silverstein bought the WTC every other real estate agent in New York City knew these buildings were not a financially good business decision, was this just good luck?

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Or the fact that devote extremist Muslims, who drank alcohol and used prostitutes and could not fly a small private airplane, but they did the mass murder on 9/11.


Or The whole 9/11 official story is full of ship that just happening and defies our common sense (what are the odds?). For example, three of the transcontinental flights departed for the West Coast with at least two thirds of the seats empty. Flight 77 …never at any time in the last decade have we flown a trans-continental flight that was 3/4 empty as what allegedly occurred on 9/11.

Or the fact by order of a White House directive, a FEMA bio-warfare training exercise called Tripod II, was scheduled and in progress on September 11th in Manhattan. The set up for that exercise conveniently placed a fully staffed FEMA and Department of Justice command post on Manhattan's Pier 29.


Or the fact that the New York City’s, Emergency Management Operation Center at the time was located in World Trade Center seven (WTC7), but on 9/11, they also moved it to Pear 29 with FEMA.


Or the fact that US Air Force left what a yawning gap its air defenses on the East Coast without enough F-16s to handle four hijackings—a gap with New York City at the center.

Or that fact that militarized anthrax, only produced in DoD bio-weapon labs or Bechtel labs would be sent to two of the Congressmen who were against the Patriot Act and could have stopped its passage.


Or the fact that never before 9/11 had a steel high rise building ever totally collapsed due to fire or since then due to fire, yet three did so.

Or the fact that steel melted for the first time in world history, without first baking in a furnace.



Or the fact that someone made $2.5 million profit with insider information investing in put options in United Airlines stock as the stock price crashed after 9/11, yet they did not bother to claim the money (as far as we know and the SEC says the records have been destroyed).


How lucky for was all that?


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Richard McManus
Chief Warrant Officer-3/counterintelligence special agent, and combat paramedic, Vietnam, US Army retired, Everett, WA
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What does this have to do with uniform patterns?
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SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD
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What? Never heard of it. At this point, who cares.
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Here's one of the original articles talking about it.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/12/04/congress-pushes-ahead-with-plan-for-joint-camouflage-uniform.html

I care and so do a lot of other service members because a lot of time, resources and taxpayers money get wasted over things like this. They do multiple tests, have multiple contenders and winners, then gets completely dropped for something else that wasn't even there to begin with. It's been going on well over the past 15 years. No need to differentiate ourselves. We all might as well wear super hero costumes to show everyone else who is exactly who then to have service members to waste their own money on another failed/pointless camouflage uniform.
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TSgt George Rodriguez
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Camouflage patterns should be adjusted to the areas of operation to give our troops the best ability to blend in with the terrain. One pattern or color will not suffice for any given situation.
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What I meant was that all branches should go back to wearing the same patterns like we did with the BDU/DCU days. I just don't understand why we currently have more than 5 different patterns through out all branches for the same terrain.
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SSG John Jensen
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wore my old OD field jacket to work once - everybody at the shop asked if it was my Dad's, when I said it was mine they all commented that I was really old.
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