Posted on Mar 7, 2017
SGT Chemical Biological Radiological and Nuclear Operations Specialist
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In a few days, my unit (or 25% of my unit) are going to conduct annual training for three weeks. Being in school, obviously this interferes with my education. While I was trying to get out of it, this being my last semester and whatnot, they told me "him going to AT is contingent to being transferred". So I'm wanting opinions on what you think about this situation. I'll elaborate below.
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Now, having said what I said, SGT (Join to see) , bring your laptop and books anyway, and do homework in the evenings as best you can. Load up on coffee to stay awake. You're an adult, so you do what you need to do in order to balance things as best you can. If anyone says anything to you, your response is "Well, command didn't want to work with me, so I'm doing what I can to adjust. I'm here, I'm doing my duty, so what I do with my down time is my own concern, and I'm using the time productively."

I, as a young SGT, used that sort of language when I was on active duty to justify to my at-the-time 1SG why I was in college and not out getting drunk with my fellow new NCOs....
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SGM Billy Herrington
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My 2 cents from dealing with this in the past.

You should have asked your commander months ago. Stated your situation that it's your last semester and I'm quite certain he/she would have been able to arrange an alternate AT date for you. Contrary to popular belief it isn't an easy thing to do. AT must be performed at a training location, your home station armory is not that, so they would need to coordinate you doing AT with another unit.

Also, professors are very understanding. If not your VA rep can help. I did many AT's with homework late at night in the TOC after my 1SG brought me in from the field or the range. One reason why I preferred online classes. I did have some resident and some classes that required a log in X times a week. I coordinated this all well in advance.

Do you use TA or GI Bill or are you doing a VA work study? If the answer to any of those is yes, then that is what's allowing you to go to school or paying a portion. You have to make right with the bill payer. AT is scheduled well before it's conducted and the AGO 40, or whatever document your state uses, lists all training events well in advance.

Probably not what you want to hear, but the hard right is just that, hard.
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SGT Chemical Biological Radiological and Nuclear Operations Specialist
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I definitely understand, although I did state that it was my last semester when this AT was first announced around November/December. I didn't get a definite yes until last drill, which was around three weeks ago. Even in January it wasn't 100% that many of us were going or not. Another reason for waiting is because my last class didn't start until late February so I was waiting to see what that instructor had to say. He did help by recommending letters to try and help my case in case I did take it to IG, so I asked my instructors to do that for me, another reason why it was so late. Anyways, thank you for your input MSG.
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SSG Paul Carrier
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I have to disagree with the statement that AT must be at a training location and not at the unit armory.
As an M-day soldier I did AT both at the armory and other times at the adjacent CSMS shop.
As an AGR I set up AT for unit soldiers at both places and often had one working with my for their 15 days of AT.
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SGM Billy Herrington
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It's usually state or MSC dependant. As a readiness NCO and a BDE ops NCO, it was a very rare and extenuating circumstance for a Soldier to do a homestation AT. AT is for collective training, not individual training, hence why hanging out at the armory and mopping or working on SSD isn't conducive to the training model.
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SGT (Join to see) Mission comes first. In my civilian career, I had to drop four masters degree courses because mission requirements came first.
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And were you on active duty at the time? How much notice did you get for the mission requirements?
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CW3 (Join to see) - I was not active duty. I started on the Space Shuttle program, three years before the first Space Shuttle flight and stayed until one month after the last Space Shuttle flight. New requirements and responsibilities, problems, covering for co-workers, etc., could occur at any time. My work hours would vary from working 45 - 50 hour weeks some times to 60 plus hours for extended times. Could I have not been as committed to the program, yes, but that is not who I am.
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But was the program as committed to you as you were to it? That's my whole point. The same Army that will demand total commitment doesn't have a problem dropping you when they're done with you.
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CW3 (Join to see) - I doubt that there are many civilian companies that are as committed as we might like. For me, the program ended when I was 62, and ready to retire. With the end of the Space Shuttle program, there was no need for Space Shuttle workers. The Space Shuttles were one of one a kind with very specialized skills. Many workers left before the end of the program, and retrained into oil and gas jobs in the Houston area. Was the program as committed to me as I was to it. maybe not. No one forced me to stay for 33 years. The program was something that I believed in and I am glad that I stayed until the end.
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