Posted on Jun 7, 2020
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The Army is making those who want to go through flight school incur a 10 year active duty service obligation (ADSO) as it’s “fix” for pilot retention. This of course will do nothing to fix the problem of toxic leaders, poor assignment choices, or any of the other issues. Thoughts anyone?
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Personally, I think it will do more harm than good in the long run because (afaik) this is a pilot retention issue they are trying to address. Not a "we paid all this money for you to be a Pilot, now pay your dues!" issue, because if that was the case the ADSO most certainly would have been more than 6 years. So if a group of big wigs out there decided way back when that 6 years makes up for that cost in training, how does upping the ADSO make any sense? You want higher retention, give better incentives.

I do agree with SFC Boyd that it "probably" won't slow down the number of packets getting submitted, but the soldiers out there with a lot more TIS will definitely reconsider if they have already been in for 10 or more years. I know quite a few guys that have already mentioned they would have reconsidered if the 10 year ADSO applied to them, even one that is street-to-seat. 10 years is a long commitment to make.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
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I am about to hit 20yrs nurse corps, would take a cut to CPT or even 1LT to fly in the Army for ten years.
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CW2 UH-60M Pilot
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Sir, don't get me wrong, I plan to spend the next 16 years flying and possibly beyond 20. However, I do understand that not everyone feels the same way I do about flying and may have different reasons for only wanting to do 6 instead of 10. I just think the pool of potential Aviator recruits will get smaller as a result.
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CW4 Keith Dolliver
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MAJ Byron Oyler - Wouldn't work as an O-2/O-3, but you're more than welcome to try it as a W-2.
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CW2 UH-60M Pilot
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Great question. I think is great! You want to volunteer to be an aviator in the U.S. Army at $0 cost to you? Then you better be willing to pay that back with 10 years of service. Way too many people use the Army to get a “free” pilot’s license then go on a different route to do other things which I’m not against that. It’s just the Army’s way to keep you in. Most people get a student loan to pay for their education which it will take them about a decade to pay off depending on the amount of course. So, either get a loan or join the Army and be ready to pay 10 years of service, if you are already in the service dont let that 10 year obligation scare you away if flying is what you really want to do.
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I knew this was coming out so I pulled my packet before this last board. That will put me over 20 years. Not interested
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