Posted on Oct 5, 2016
What is the best way to tell your unit that you in no way shape or form want an ETS award from them?
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First off, wow kinda surprised this generated any response at all. I was looking more for a "oh hey, just do this memorandum and it's all done." kind of a deal. Anyways as for context, awards here go through about 15 or more corrections for non-grammatical issues. The award hasn't been written yet and I would probably end up writing it anyways. I just don't want to waste anyone's time or my own for that matter with writing an award that a civilian company cares not a whit about that just going to get kicked back over and over and over. I know what I have done and I honestly don't care much for recognition. I'd rather see some of my Soldiers get credited as they go on to do bigger and better things. Do I also have other motivations for not wanting an award yes because there have been several things that have left a bad taste, but I didn't post this to air my dirty laundry, I was just simply looking for advice. Thanks all for the numerous replies. Most were pretty entertaining, and a few were even helpful.
Edited 9 y ago
Posted 9 y ago
Responses: 350
Go to and see your 1SG and respectfully request no award supported by a no award memo stating you do not want a award that is the correct way to do it. If you really feel that strong about it. I will tell you don't be the a$& hole who throws it in the trash make sure when you do get it take your soldiers off to the side and let them know their work and dedication means more to you than a medal but accept it with grace after you leave do what you want with it.
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I can tell you that personally i would tell them to shove it where the sun dont shine.
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Rarely do I post here, but this one is personal for me. Like many junior officers at the time, I got my you've been through deployment Bronze Star. As a new Captain, my S3 major got fired and sent to an individual augmentee position because the BN CO did not want him around. I got to do all his work and mine.
After coming home and playing rear detachment CDR, we had a complete change of senior leadership. Because I was one of the few people from deployment left, I conducted all of the refit. The new BN XO and S3 did not want to do their jobs. After scrounging 4 M777 howitzers form a national guard unit and fighting with Corps S4, the new S3 asked me if 3 bullets were enough for an ARCOM and if I could write them. This guy was the Rear D CD-R for his previous unit and got an MSM for that, but wanted me to write my own award.
I guess the moral of the story is screw them. The ETS award isn't going to feed you and you don't owe them anything to receive it. My friends threw me a nice party and I appreciate that more than another worthless award. Accept what you like and don't feel obligated to make them feel good about themselves.
After coming home and playing rear detachment CDR, we had a complete change of senior leadership. Because I was one of the few people from deployment left, I conducted all of the refit. The new BN XO and S3 did not want to do their jobs. After scrounging 4 M777 howitzers form a national guard unit and fighting with Corps S4, the new S3 asked me if 3 bullets were enough for an ARCOM and if I could write them. This guy was the Rear D CD-R for his previous unit and got an MSM for that, but wanted me to write my own award.
I guess the moral of the story is screw them. The ETS award isn't going to feed you and you don't owe them anything to receive it. My friends threw me a nice party and I appreciate that more than another worthless award. Accept what you like and don't feel obligated to make them feel good about themselves.
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Times changes all, accept the award and remember that it is part of your legacy. You decide the future by your own actions in the present.
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I personally turned down an ETS medal because it was based on rank and not achievement. I had earned higher medals representing much unit over 3 years. Then when ready to ETS CW2 got a higher medal and was only in the unit 6 months
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Go in the future 10 years and you'll look back and remember your friends and good times when you get that reward and see the times without a bad taste. Take it. Be the big man and later you'll be happy you did. Trust
Me you will
Me you will
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A lot of guys quietly hate their military experience but go thru their enlistment doing their job well anyway. This strikes me as a case where a soldier send to telling his chain of command "You treated me like a piece of $&!+ for for years, treated the people around me the same way, and now you want me to smile, shake your hand, and pretend it's all been great. No thank you. Just let me go in peace.
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In the end, an ETS award recognizes the culmination of your time given to the Service and your nation. Yes, the citation captures what was done during the specified time period, but is motivated by the totality of your contribution. It is military tradition, and refusal is a slap in the face to all those who preceded you and to those who follow.
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I didn't get an ETS award, but me and a few others were called to the front of the formation and my 1SG shook my hand and told me that I would be missed. And thanked me for not being a d-bag while in his company. I couldn't have respected that man more than I did at that moment.
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Send them a Memo for Record and explain your position. In my case, when I was out processing there was mention of giving me an ‘Honorary’ promotion to SMSgt. I pointed out that I AM a SMSgt, not a MSgt and an ‘Honorary’ promotion to ‘honor’ me for what I earned is NOT an honor.
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Fill out a prickE8 form and give it to your 1SG and ask him not to do the award. You will need to also fill out the Id10T form and submit that to your PL. After that let the E4 mafia know so they can take care of it.
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My ETS award is the only reminder of my Army life I see every day. It reminds me of the great family my Army buddies were to me. It reminds of the ongoing struggle my brothers and sisters in arms make every day. It reminds me that I belonged to the most elite club in the world. My ETS award says freedom. My ETS awards reminds me that I live in the greatest country ever The United States of America.
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Be thankful that they even want to give you an award. When I retired in 2005, I didn't get a thing, a thank you, see ya later, or a kiss my a$$, when I put alot of my own personal time into doing my job.
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SGT, Sounds like you edited your post since you first asked. Many enlisted Soldiers have poor writing skills. That is one of the contributing causes of denied awards. Writing your ETS award allows someone else to work on their writing skills which may improve someone's NCOER down the road and help them receive a promotion they deserve.
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Some people like recognition, some don't. For some, an award of any kind boosts their morale and therefore their attitude and performance. If you refuse it, it sends a negative message to
Everyone around you, especially to the soldiers beneath you whom you seem to care about. It would be cheapening any awards or recognition they may get in the future.
My advice would be to accept the award and smile as you do. Put on the good, morale building show for those under you. Throw it away when you get home if you want to, but send a good message to the troops at work.
Everyone around you, especially to the soldiers beneath you whom you seem to care about. It would be cheapening any awards or recognition they may get in the future.
My advice would be to accept the award and smile as you do. Put on the good, morale building show for those under you. Throw it away when you get home if you want to, but send a good message to the troops at work.
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You know what pisses me off about this is how childish you are and your an NCO too. That award may have your name on it but it's not just for you its for your soldies who helped you earn it and the leaders who helped you become an NCO to earn it and you just spit right in their faces and you call yourself an NCO. my BC was away when I retired and he fought to get me an MSM personally I could care less about it and i wasn't happy shaving what beard I had grown over my 4 months of retirement to get into a uniform to go back to receive this award but I'm a NCO and a Soldier and i respect my prior chain of command for what they did for me and I showed it by shaving getting into a uniform and acting like a NCO. Suck it up buttercup and quit thinking of yourself you POS!!
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I ETS'd in July of this year... no adverse action EVER, NCOIC of two division level details in Hawaii, one of which lasted over 8 months and saved the Army millions.
Still no award.
Just relating.
Still no award.
Just relating.
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Why don't you can the mystery and respond to those asking for more
information?
information?
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Me and another SNCO where given aaccommodation medal and a dumb ass Lt only read the citation for a SSgt. When the CC started to pin on the medals i was about to sit down , I took the medal and I was pissed. Later when i got my MSM all that didn't matter. Awards aren't just for the individual but also recognizes the family made. This guy was just a pissed of kid showing his ass
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My ETS award 1.) had my MOS listed incorrectly and 2.) had multiple spelling errors. I won't lie, I was disheartened and disappointed that I spent 6 years and a deployment with a unit that did nothing more than copy / paste and say see ya later. I'd rather receive nothing at all than something half assed.
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