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Curious as this has stumped me and I have not found it in DA PAM 600-3 nor NGR 600-101. It was also not clarified by PPOM 16-010 published yesterday.
Typically, I understand that one either attends a BOLC or CCC in order to be branch qualified. In the ARNG, for the purposes of promotion in a 67J position, is completion of the C2F7 (MEDEVAC Doctrine) considered the BQ course? Or, must one finish AV BOLC Ph II and C2F7?
Typically, I understand that one either attends a BOLC or CCC in order to be branch qualified. In the ARNG, for the purposes of promotion in a 67J position, is completion of the C2F7 (MEDEVAC Doctrine) considered the BQ course? Or, must one finish AV BOLC Ph II and C2F7?
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Medevac Pilot 15A: Aviation Officer Promotions 67J: Aeromedical Evacuation Army National Guard
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I think what you are looking for is in: Department of the Army Pamphlet 600–4 Personnel–General Army Medical Department Officer Development and Career Management http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/p600_4.pdf
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Thanks SFC Hill. I have also looked at that reg, but it still doesn't provide clarification.
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I went through the Doctrine course and I'm now a 67J, Aviator, branched MS and a newly appointed Commander of an Aviation Medevac Company. My promotion is also at NGB. Hope this helps.
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CPT (Join to see) - Yes, Aviation. I was originally with an assault company and moved to the MED
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I went through AMEDD CCC with a 67J. It depends on whether you branched to AMEDD or AV.
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AD 67J are a little bit different as they will most likely stay 67J for their entire careers. In the ARNG, pilots will float back from 67J to 15A/B
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Sometimes regulations are great. Sometimes the no shit "ive dealt with the little white-shoed old lady in Arlington" is better.
In my case, I transitioned from 70B to 67J, and the determining factor was that I was MED branch qualified, and had completed every part of flight school down to ALC. Once that was completed I was able to submit for an AOC transition (because I was already MED branch), and receive the 67J bonus and AOC for a vacancy promotion.
I tried to do it for promotion after flight school and BOLC B at rucker, but 67j couldn't be awarded to me until after ALC. It took like 8 days to make it happen after I went to my state.
In my case, I transitioned from 70B to 67J, and the determining factor was that I was MED branch qualified, and had completed every part of flight school down to ALC. Once that was completed I was able to submit for an AOC transition (because I was already MED branch), and receive the 67J bonus and AOC for a vacancy promotion.
I tried to do it for promotion after flight school and BOLC B at rucker, but 67j couldn't be awarded to me until after ALC. It took like 8 days to make it happen after I went to my state.
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2CF7 was only relevant for the bonus but not the AOC change. They were independent. And for the layman, that's the 10 day Med Doctrine course at Rucker.
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You will go to MS BOLC at Ft. Sam and then go to BOLC/Flight School at Ft. Rucker. 67J skip the "common core" portion of BOLC since they already completed a BOLC. The common core portion was land nav, range, convoy ops, etc. Basic soldiering stuff. You will still be required to do the aviation-specific portion of BOLC, which is only a couple weeks.
You will not be 15-series qualified, unless you go into the guard where branch apparently doesn't matter and you can switch back and forth depending on what they need. You will have the same training as any other blackhawk pilot. On active duty, you would always be in a Medevac company in a GSAB, whereas a 15A could be in any number of units.
You will not be 15-series qualified, unless you go into the guard where branch apparently doesn't matter and you can switch back and forth depending on what they need. You will have the same training as any other blackhawk pilot. On active duty, you would always be in a Medevac company in a GSAB, whereas a 15A could be in any number of units.
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I've already been to BOLC, so I won't be attending MS BOLC. And I am ARNG, which is truly an interesting beast in aviation.
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I have some good files for 67J career progression that might answer this. Send me a reminder to [login to see]
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Is this the powerpoint? Basically, the confusion comes in because I will be a BOLC bypass when I go to Rucker this Summer, which is also near my eligibility window for Captain. I know that to be AV qualified, you must complete Ph II of AV BOLC which comes after IERW, but I'm not sure when you're considered AMEDD qualified. I'm assuming that is after C2F7, but unsure whether you must also have completed AV BOLC PH II. Either way, I shot you an e-mail.
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