Posted on Oct 5, 2023
How does AMC define "deployed" for dependent travel?
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Just picking up and going to on a mission? Perhaps a PCS or TCS to a combat zone. AMC allows dependents of deployed personnel to travel Space A without sponsor.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams, since you're asking how does AMC define "deployed" in regards to dependant travel (I adjusted your question to better reflect what you're asking), the FAQ on their site* states:
Unaccompanied dependents of deployed uniformed service members, when the deployment orders indicate the deployment is between 30 and 365 consecutive days, are authorized to travel Space-A unaccompanied in Category IV. If the deployment period exceeds 365 consecutive days, the unaccompanied dependents are authorized Category III travel. However, you will only be eligible to move in this category after every other Category III member has been selected.
Specific to "prove my sponsor is deployed", AMC requires a deployment verification letter signed by the member's commander verifying the member's deployment. The documentation must be in the dependents' possession during travel.*
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* https://www.amc.af.mil/AMC-Travel-Site/Frequently-Asked-Questions
* deployment verification - https://www.spacea.net/images/deployed_30_memo.pdf
MAJ Ronnie Reams, since you're asking how does AMC define "deployed" in regards to dependant travel (I adjusted your question to better reflect what you're asking), the FAQ on their site* states:
Unaccompanied dependents of deployed uniformed service members, when the deployment orders indicate the deployment is between 30 and 365 consecutive days, are authorized to travel Space-A unaccompanied in Category IV. If the deployment period exceeds 365 consecutive days, the unaccompanied dependents are authorized Category III travel. However, you will only be eligible to move in this category after every other Category III member has been selected.
Specific to "prove my sponsor is deployed", AMC requires a deployment verification letter signed by the member's commander verifying the member's deployment. The documentation must be in the dependents' possession during travel.*
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* https://www.amc.af.mil/AMC-Travel-Site/Frequently-Asked-Questions
* deployment verification - https://www.spacea.net/images/deployed_30_memo.pdf
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COL Randall C.
MAJ Ronnie Reams - In actuality, it's "in the eyes of the commander". If the unit commander views it as a deployment and signs the deployment verification letter, then I don't think the AMC gate agent will tell that O5 that it doesn't meet the definition of a deployment.
However, the guidance for the commander is according to the DoD-wide definition of deployment*, "A Service member of a Military Service within the DoD is considered deployed or on a deployment on any day on which, pursuant to orders, the Service member performs service for an operation at a location or under circumstances that make it impossible for them to spend off-duty time in the housing in which they reside when on garrison duty at their permanent duty station or
homeport."
Note - As defined by the DTM, "An event is an operation if it is recorded in the joint capabilities requirement manager or contained in the annual Global Force Management Data Initiative–compliant tool under the Global Force Management Data Initiative reporting structure specified in DoD Instruction 8260.03. Forces deployed pursuant to Executive orders, operational plans, or concept plans approved by the Secretary of Defense are also considered deployed."
So, in that case, someone that was in Kuwait serving as a "speed bump" would be considered 'deployed' according to DoD (maybe not then since the DTM came out in 2021, but they would be now).
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* (DTM) 21-005 defines “deployment” and “dwell time” under a single Department-wide
standard in accordance with Section 991 of Title 10, United States Code (U.S.C.) - https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dtm/DTM-21-005.PDF
However, the guidance for the commander is according to the DoD-wide definition of deployment*, "A Service member of a Military Service within the DoD is considered deployed or on a deployment on any day on which, pursuant to orders, the Service member performs service for an operation at a location or under circumstances that make it impossible for them to spend off-duty time in the housing in which they reside when on garrison duty at their permanent duty station or
homeport."
Note - As defined by the DTM, "An event is an operation if it is recorded in the joint capabilities requirement manager or contained in the annual Global Force Management Data Initiative–compliant tool under the Global Force Management Data Initiative reporting structure specified in DoD Instruction 8260.03. Forces deployed pursuant to Executive orders, operational plans, or concept plans approved by the Secretary of Defense are also considered deployed."
So, in that case, someone that was in Kuwait serving as a "speed bump" would be considered 'deployed' according to DoD (maybe not then since the DTM came out in 2021, but they would be now).
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* (DTM) 21-005 defines “deployment” and “dwell time” under a single Department-wide
standard in accordance with Section 991 of Title 10, United States Code (U.S.C.) - https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dtm/DTM-21-005.PDF
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
CSM William Everroad - Never knew they had written orders that fast. I kinda thought it was VOPOTUS or at least VOCO. One of the sayings at Liberty is when POTUS calls 911, 82d answers the phone.
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COL Randall C.
MAJ Ronnie Reams - All operational deployments require JCS authorization. Many are "pre-authorized", such as standing contingency deployments, and even more are "sub-operations" to approved operations, but all need to be approved at that level.
Exception is if there is a EO deploying them, then they go and the Chairman's read book dots the Is and crosses the Ts after the fact.
Exception is if there is a EO deploying them, then they go and the Chairman's read book dots the Is and crosses the Ts after the fact.
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CSM William Everroad
MAJ Ronnie Reams - I know a few of them had the service appropriately recorded, it would be interesting to find out the timeline for orders production on that one, might have been contingency OPLAN templates.
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