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The cord, CIB and disk were established authorized as a retention and recruitment tool for Infantrymen. It’s a gimmick of uniform arts and crafts. One Army!
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I remember returning home on leave and I had a position on the Base Honor Guard. I had the combination II dark Blue AF shirt.
(Same color as the Trousers).. I had an extra Honor Guard tab and sewed it near the top of the sleeve like on the Class A blouse with Rope, HG belt and corfam shoes. I got informed real quick the combination I had was not authorized as Honor Guard Uniform. The one who confronted me asked for my I.D. He shoewed his.. he was an Air Guard E-4 SGT.(it was ‘71) I thought I could pull off not showing him. My being regular AF.. So I didn’t .. and removed myself from his presence and got home . Hopefully that was the end of that.. I definitely didn’t wear that combination nor the regular one. For the rest of my leave.. I got back to my base and just kept it to myself.. I never heard no more nor confronted or asked.. When my time was up On the H.G. I turned the gear in. I went home on PCS leave before going to S.E.A. Hoping I didn’t see that SGT. again. That was short lived.. I seen him again at the Airport working a recruiting booth.. he had a rocker added. He was busy talking to a prospective. and I went on by and got to my gate.. I had a 20 minute wait.. the longest ever it seemed.. The sitrep was over.. finally we got to board.. 3-1/2 hrs to Frisco.. I went to ‘Nam . Tan Son Nhut AB, for all of ‘72 then Thailand for 1-1/2 years.. Earned the SSGT in ‘Nam before Thailand . Returned home It was like a flashback dream .. The recruiting booth was there only in a different place.. I seen the same fella there .. he had another rocker.. TSGT now. Losing some hair too...
I felt in my pocket to see if I had change.. So I looked in my wallet, found a dollar and got change at the machine.. as I was going to the pay phone s voice told me to save my money.. it was the TSGT. He let me use his phone . It was already connected to a outside line .. So I called the house and the folks came to get me..
I thanked him for use of the phone.. and went out to wait on my ride. Neither of us mentioned that sitrep almost 3 years ago.. maybe he forgot? I didn’t, it just slipped into the archives...
(Same color as the Trousers).. I had an extra Honor Guard tab and sewed it near the top of the sleeve like on the Class A blouse with Rope, HG belt and corfam shoes. I got informed real quick the combination I had was not authorized as Honor Guard Uniform. The one who confronted me asked for my I.D. He shoewed his.. he was an Air Guard E-4 SGT.(it was ‘71) I thought I could pull off not showing him. My being regular AF.. So I didn’t .. and removed myself from his presence and got home . Hopefully that was the end of that.. I definitely didn’t wear that combination nor the regular one. For the rest of my leave.. I got back to my base and just kept it to myself.. I never heard no more nor confronted or asked.. When my time was up On the H.G. I turned the gear in. I went home on PCS leave before going to S.E.A. Hoping I didn’t see that SGT. again. That was short lived.. I seen him again at the Airport working a recruiting booth.. he had a rocker added. He was busy talking to a prospective. and I went on by and got to my gate.. I had a 20 minute wait.. the longest ever it seemed.. The sitrep was over.. finally we got to board.. 3-1/2 hrs to Frisco.. I went to ‘Nam . Tan Son Nhut AB, for all of ‘72 then Thailand for 1-1/2 years.. Earned the SSGT in ‘Nam before Thailand . Returned home It was like a flashback dream .. The recruiting booth was there only in a different place.. I seen the same fella there .. he had another rocker.. TSGT now. Losing some hair too...
I felt in my pocket to see if I had change.. So I looked in my wallet, found a dollar and got change at the machine.. as I was going to the pay phone s voice told me to save my money.. it was the TSGT. He let me use his phone . It was already connected to a outside line .. So I called the house and the folks came to get me..
I thanked him for use of the phone.. and went out to wait on my ride. Neither of us mentioned that sitrep almost 3 years ago.. maybe he forgot? I didn’t, it just slipped into the archives...
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The cord should stay with the Infantry. Like it or not, infantry are the backbone of the Army. They are the ones everyone else is here to support. Post-Vietnam, they received a bad rap, but today they are high tech warriors and they are getting more sophisticated every day. The cord says they are trained; the EIB; CIB, says they have been tested. Both let us know they are ready for battle.
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Just like infantry artillery has a thing of its own. Its not a cord but a saint Barbara award which is worn around the neck as a red ribbon with a madallion. Like the blue cord its earned, not given out
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Well hell, let's give everyone a Stetson also, NOT! Leave it as it is. As a rigger I earned my jump and rigger wings same as those who earned the blue chord of infantry. Puts me in mind of the awarding of the bronze star to desk jockeys in Vietnam. All it did was take away from what the award was originally meant for those who earned it in combat.
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When I was in AIT at Fort Lee we had Riggers across the way from us, Charlie 262d QM I believe. Was it still at Lee when you went through?
There's a lot of dissatisfaction with the Bronze Star it seems. My understanding of how it's supposed to be awarded is that BSM without V is awarded for Merit in Theater where as the BSM with V is awarded for Valor in Theater. If you are not in Theater then you would be awarded the Meritorious Service Medal and not the BSM. It also seems to be a a general award for E7, WO3, and O4 according to many as an end of tour award. Perhaps Commanders need to reevaluate how they award medals, I don't know.
I think each Branch needs it's own traditions, like Cav having Spurs, or Riggers wearing Red Caps, or Tankers wearing their own Boots.
There's a lot of dissatisfaction with the Bronze Star it seems. My understanding of how it's supposed to be awarded is that BSM without V is awarded for Merit in Theater where as the BSM with V is awarded for Valor in Theater. If you are not in Theater then you would be awarded the Meritorious Service Medal and not the BSM. It also seems to be a a general award for E7, WO3, and O4 according to many as an end of tour award. Perhaps Commanders need to reevaluate how they award medals, I don't know.
I think each Branch needs it's own traditions, like Cav having Spurs, or Riggers wearing Red Caps, or Tankers wearing their own Boots.
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SP5 Joel McDargh
Rigger School was and as far as I know is still at FT. Lee. As for the Bronze Star I see no way on God's green earth why anyone should get this award for no more than sitting at a desk punching a typewriter and filing paperwork. Where is the merit when this is what you sighned on the dotted line for? By handing out this award in such a fashion it stole from those who paid the ultimate price in earning it. Then again incompetence was the rule of the day with many self serving NCOs and officers of the day. I know of several instances where the BS was awarded for no more than grandstanding and bragging rights.
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Respectfully, you can be obese as a pog, you fail weight and tape in the infantry. lol I can't describe the details, it's like your life is miserable and you get demoted to have your life miserable getting penetrated in all holes, worse than that it's like abuse wish you jump on the stairs like a butterfly setting free ahem" med boarded"
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Only 11 bravos get the blue cord. Pogs only do pt twice a day only on the pt test. Infantry does pt ever single day and run in freezing cold weather with only a shirt and shorts. Pogs cant even run across the parking lot
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