Posted on Feb 25, 2018
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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There is a difference between toxic and failing leadership. One might be fixable with training and supervision, the other requires removal and replacement with someone else. And BTW, that someone needs additional support while they sort out what's gone wrong and who needs attention or transfer.
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SGM Bill Frazer
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Joe there is no lasting solution for toxic leadership. It is a human condition. People seem to be fine till you give them almost total power and then they want to rule the world. What higher up's need to do is constantly monitor their subordinates and when it seems that they are losing it- pull them in, counsel them and warn them that units/troops are more important than careers. Keep it up and they won't have a career.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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This is something that someone else presented as well. But what is there to do at those higher levels. Division commands and higher have almost completely autonomy and no supervision.
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MAJ Contracting Officer
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as a subordinate the only solution is an exit strategy.
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A1C Ian Williams
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I disagree, sir MAJ (Join to see) The strategy should be do your job as effectively as possible and become the leader that you need. SGT(P) Michael H.
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Susan Foster
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I have seen many situations where the leadership was toxic, but ignored the staff. You can become the de facto leader in this situation even if you aren't in charge. It's more difficult, but instead of using position power, you are using personal power. It's a great way to grow personally as a leader, too. And you have a great example of the leader you do NOT want to be.
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MAJ Contracting Officer
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A1C Ian Williams - That is an awesome goal, unfortunately too often the best way to become the leader is to get out of the current environment.
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SGT(P) Michael H.
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A1C Ian Williams - I agree to a point, and that is what I did while there. I developed my subordinates to the point they could step into my position once I left. Their training needs were placed first, their personal issues were always handled before my own. However, when toxic leadership becomes further toxic despite your efforts, and Command is part of the problem, not even close to being part of any kind of solution, it is time to go!
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