Posted on Feb 23, 2016
What is the NAVY instruction for use/ wear of the NATO Meritorious Service Medal?
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I am being awarded the NATO meritorious Service Medal. I am inquiring about the instruction for proper wear. The DOD Instruction 134833 VOL 3 ENCL 3 section (7)(e) talks about all other NATO members except the MSM. It states that the NATO MSM is to be processed by the proper Military Department. The issue is I have not found a Navy Instruction and the award was approved for wear in 2003.
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It is after your Seaservice and if you have seaservice and overseas it would be after that. I am sure they will give you the medal and ribbon. You need to know that there are a couple of NATO medals they are not all the same. I am assuming that this is from AFG so if you have one from lets say Bosnia they are two different medals and believe it or not you would wear the two, they are not the same.
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I seem to remember seeing something about only one NATO medal being allowed at a time in our uniforms...
Maj David Wright
So if you have a UN former Yugoslavia Medal and UN ISAF Non-Artical 5 Medal you can wear them both as they are two completely different awards?
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Maj David Wright - Sir I am confused, but I know some SEAL's that have both, I have both but a Star. They are if like you say same as mine are two total different campaigns. To be clear I am a Support element type for SEAL's and other SOF, not claiming to be one, but did some cool shit.
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Maj David Wright
CPO, to clarify: I have both the NATO Yugoslavia and NATO ISAF medals. Can I wear both or just the Yugo with a star? Txs Chief...
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It's a tail-ender when it comes to other medals and ribbons. For you, being Navy, it would come before the Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal, which comes right before the Navy Rifle and Navy Pistol Medals. If you're not "old" enough to have the RVN medal, but have either of the two weapons’ medals, it would go right before them.
kepler.pratt.duke.edu/usnribbons.html
kepler.pratt.duke.edu/usnribbons.html
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The NATO MSM is a foreign decoration, while the NATO Medal is Non-U.S. service award, more specifically a NATO campaign and service award. As a result, the NATO MSM is worn in the order of receipt based on any foreign decorations you may also have. Then, foreign unit awards (which are now unlikely), then Non-U.S. service awards in the order of precedence. That potentially means that you or others in the Navy could and should “separation between the NATO MSM and the NATO Medal”. Here is a potentially common ribbon order of precedence and assumes you are wearing U.S. military decorations. I’m using the French Legion as part of the example and not including Vietnam and Korea War era medals in the mix, then here are all the right combinations:
== Sailor 1 example ==
... NATO Meritorious Service Medal ribbon (with bronze service star for each subsequent award)
... United Nations Medal ribbon (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... NATO Medal ribbon (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... Multinational Force and Observers Medal ribbon
== Sailor 2 example ==
... NATO Meritorious Service Medal ribbon (e.g., awarded in 2016)
... Legion of Honor (France) (e.g., awarded in 2017)
... United Nations Medal ribbon (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... NATO Medal (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... Multinational Force and Observers Medal
== Sailor 3 example ==
... Legion of Honor (France) ribbon (e.g., awarded in 2016)
... NATO Meritorious Service Medal ribbon (e.g., awarded in 2017)
... United Nations Medal ribbon (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... NATO Medal (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... Multinational Force and Observers Medal
When awarded multiple United Nations or NATO (mission) medals which have different designs, you would return to the standard United Nations or NATO Medal (respectively) and include service star(s) for subsequent awards.
== Sailor 1 example ==
... NATO Meritorious Service Medal ribbon (with bronze service star for each subsequent award)
... United Nations Medal ribbon (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... NATO Medal ribbon (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... Multinational Force and Observers Medal ribbon
== Sailor 2 example ==
... NATO Meritorious Service Medal ribbon (e.g., awarded in 2016)
... Legion of Honor (France) (e.g., awarded in 2017)
... United Nations Medal ribbon (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... NATO Medal (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... Multinational Force and Observers Medal
== Sailor 3 example ==
... Legion of Honor (France) ribbon (e.g., awarded in 2016)
... NATO Meritorious Service Medal ribbon (e.g., awarded in 2017)
... United Nations Medal ribbon (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... NATO Medal (with bronze service star for each subsequent mission)
... Multinational Force and Observers Medal
When awarded multiple United Nations or NATO (mission) medals which have different designs, you would return to the standard United Nations or NATO Medal (respectively) and include service star(s) for subsequent awards.
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Chief, I mean no disrespect, but as a CPO you should know what the answer is or (at least) where to find it. You should have checked SECNAVINST 1650.1H (Chapter 7) first.
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And keep in mind this a NATO MSM; completely different than the NATO Service Medal. It is authorized for US wear by DoD Instruction.
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It is below the UN Medal and above the NATO Service Medal; note, only one NATO Service Medal may be worn, even if awarded on separate campaigns.
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NATO Medal information can be found in Chapter 7 of SECNAVINST 1650.1H
The guidance for the NATO Meritorious Service Medal will be the same as with any Foreign award to U.S. Navy personnel.
https://awards.navy.mil/awards/webdoc01.nsf/%28vwDocsByID%29/TO [login to see] 15/$file/All%20but%20AMIS.pdf
The guidance for the NATO Meritorious Service Medal will be the same as with any Foreign award to U.S. Navy personnel.
https://awards.navy.mil/awards/webdoc01.nsf/%28vwDocsByID%29/TO [login to see] 15/$file/All%20but%20AMIS.pdf
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Actually due to the fact that is from a "foreign Military" it ranks below the UN Medal
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