Posted on Feb 2, 2016
Brittany Harmon
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My husband has been trying to go Active Duty Army for almost 2 years. He is always told no for re-joining, but really wants to serve again. Does this waiver even exist? He is prior service National Guard. Honorably discharged as an E3, 6 years in. He is 15 days away from maxing out his active duty days, so he can't change his MOS.
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SGT Marc Riordan
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with 6 years in and he got out as an e3 there may be a bad re code.
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Brittany Harmon
Brittany Harmon
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What is considered a bad recode?
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SGT Marc Riordan
SGT Marc Riordan
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The re entry code. Him being prior service has nothing to do with joining the regular army, unless he got a bad code. He was reduced in rank, that could include a bar to reenlistment. I went from the national guard to the regular army...twice! In the 90's, and after 9/11, some things have changed I'm sure, but eligibility to enlist must be met.
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SSG Mother
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First question, have you seen the DD-214?

Second, I've never heard of someone maxing out active duty days with only 6 years in---

Third, the reason you are getting for his demotion sounds questionable.

Lastly, is this something you're wanting him to do, and these are the things he is claiming to tell you after he disappears for a while, supposedly after he has been speaking with a recruiter?

I work within the enlistment/accession waiver branch at NGB, so I can only be honest and tell you that either you have poorly communicated what he has said, which I doubt... OR you are not getting a fully accurate story from him.
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Brittany Harmon
Brittany Harmon
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SSG(P) (Join to see) - that's what he tried to do when he was in the national guard. However, the paperwork took too long to get approved and he was discharged. He was told it would be easier to get back in just going to a recruiter. That's why we are in our current mess.
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Brittany Harmon
Brittany Harmon
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SSG (Join to see) - thank you so much for your help! I will see what he has and have him locate all of his paperwork so we can get the information needed. He has been talking to his counselor/advisor for the army and she hasn't gotten back with him yet.
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SSG Mother
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Brittany Harmon - no problem, just understand, I can only give an opinion, but it will be one with regulatory references to assist. From there, you will have to figure out which path to take.
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Brittany Harmon we just had two soldiers go active duty from our Battalion thus past month. I don't know why it took to longer for him. If your dd 215 and NGB22 had honorable on them or with the code MBK on the 214 you shouldn't have a problem getting in.
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MSG John Duchesneau
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I'd recommend that he join the National Guard and try to get into the AGR - Active Guard Reserve program. AGR is the best of both worlds - you get military pay and benefits but get to serve in your home area. Many people do it for 20 or more years and earn a military retirement.
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What is the prior service waiver called for the Army?
CW4 Craig Urban
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Roll of the dice.
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SGT Marc Riordan
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Any resolution yet?
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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Brittany Harmon And - why is it you asking if HE wants to serve again?
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MSG Brad Sand
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Brittany Harmon

The answer to your questions are in the details not visible in your question. Waivers to exist, but it is not clear what he needs to have waived? Chances are that it is not a waiver issue, but a business rules issues...which mean that the Army in not needing what your husband has to offer at the current date. It could also be TIS/TIG issue as well?
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...I thought you could have unlimited slots for E4's? I didn't think there was a max per unit...& def not MOS? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong? It sounds like you may not be getting the full story.
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SSG Laurie Mullen
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I know I'm a little late to the game, but when I was in the Reserves I was a Signal soldier assigned to a Supply unit. We only had two slots for commo for SPC and below. If we wanted to make sergeant, we had to re-class.
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MSG Usarec Liason At Nrpc/Nara
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There are various waivers that maybe involved here. The first would be a grade determination waiver to see if he can go back in as an E-6 or has to go in as an E-5.
Then there is the matter of the business rules....does the Active duty army need someone in either grade level in his particular MOS.

Your best bet is to go with him to the local recruiting station with ALL his paper work ever received in the Army, proof of education credentials, marriage license, San cards and birth certificates of all dependents and talk to them.If the stars are aligned in his favor he could get in with a quickness...it just makes it easier if they have all the paperwork in hand to sort through and figure it out.
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Brittany Harmon
Brittany Harmon
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He was demoted in Afghanistan from E-4 to E-3 they told him the army set a limit for
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Brittany Harmon
Brittany Harmon
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How many years are allowed for each rank and he has to be E-4 as soon as possible or he gets kicked out and his mos is 12b he has taken all of his paperwork to them and still they say he has to go reserves and then maybe he can go active by utilizing agr but they always say no guarantees he is at his wits end and the only thing he hasn't tried is getting in touch with our state representative but he says he feels like that would bring more harm than good something about "jumping chain of command"
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Brittany Harmon - Also look at HRC IRR deployments... if he deployed he will be on title 10 orders and then will be given the opinion to stay active or go back to guard or reserves.. I know that the Army is real short on 31E.. Military Police Guards.
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