Posted on Sep 17, 2013
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As a Lieutenant Colonel, and a Battalion Commander, I often see junior members of my battalion listed for me to connect with as well as others stationed at the same post. What kind of protocol is proper for me to connect and for my responses to requests to connect?
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SSG Robert Burns
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I remember the first thing I learned when I became an NCO was that my soldier's were not my "friends".  So if you believe that then how can you justify "friending" them on Facebook.
Facebook is a great tool but I think it has too much opportunity to be abused or put soldiers in a bad position when they decide they want to get on there and vent, someone gets offended, and now they are being reprimanded for something they put on their on Facebook page.
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SSG Robert Burns
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Gonna have to disagree with you there SGT Sullivan. I would have to argue that there is an army regulation on this and its called fraternization.
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CW2 Kameron Read
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The regulation is AR 600-20, army command policy. Relationships between officer and enlisted are prohibited.
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I'm fairly certain that being "friends" on facebook does not constitute fraternization...
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Cpl Ray Fernandez
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What constitutes Fraternization in ones own view may be perceived differently by others, it's much easier to avoid dealing with a can worms by not opening it than to open it and try to undo the damage.<br>
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CW2 Kameron Read
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Sir, that is a difficult one.  The most significant issue I could see is for a Soldier to use social media as a means to jump the chain of command.  Instead of a junior Soldier using his/her 1st line leader it may seem easier to get instant results by a direct message to you.  I saw an example of this on facebook with the Sergeant Major of the Army page.  A junior Soldier posted on the SMA's page a comment stating that all the E5s-E6s in his unit are overweight and always at appointments.  Of course the SMA wanted to know what unit the Soldier was speaking of.  The comments continued on and I'm sure the CSM in this Soldier's division or brigade was contacted because of it.  This is obviously a negative example. 

 

AKO Files has plenty of presentations on how to use social media for units and FRG if that is what you are looking to do.  Connecting with your subordinates on rallypoint is a good thing, it is another way to mentor and influence.  Unlike facebook you wont have to expose your personal life and it develops a long term professional connection to your Soldiers. 

 

I wish I had official Army doctrine to give you a confirmed answer. 

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SSG (ret) William Martin
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SFC Read, I despise soldiers jumping the CoC. Basically, when my soldiers speak to "higher ups" for any reason I tell them to watch what they say so that they do not appear to be jumping the CoC. If my CSM stops me and asks me how I am doing, I will honestly answer him but I am not
going to volunteer any information my CoC is not already aware of. I am going to keep the conversation simple.
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SFC Rick H
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My thinking is CYA first and foremost Sir- if this soldiers requires conversation with you, I would suggest you either learn if his/her chain of command has been made privy first- we always like to handle soldiers requirements at the squad leader levels- where they should be handled! no real reason to chat our soldiers up using fb etc...
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I've had this question asked to me before and I have told my Soldiers I would not accept them as long as I was their First Line. My main reason is that I do not want that connection to be the starting point of what blurs the line between personal and professional for us Supervisor/Subordinate. I've given the same reason on why my Soldiers and I cannot be friends....for the simple fact that I've seen how Soldiers treat NCOs they do not respect nor view as their senior but moreso someone they can smoke and joke with. When you cross over into the territory of going out with your Soldiers, partying, drinking and whatnot they start to get comfortable with you and that comfort will eventually spill over into the professional environment.

Once that connection is no longer in place, I am always more than willing to accept those requests.....mainly because I like to make sure they're staying on track with their commitments and goals.
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What you say or do on your personal social media sites reflects on you and your service regardless. It's the same as how you act anywhere else. If you discredit yourself, you discredit the military. "No one is more professional then I"....remember that.
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In all honesty, I see it is a good way to gauge the interests and proclivities of subordinates to know them. I wouldn't ever message some of the higher ranking officers on my facebook with words like Whats Up or anything mind blowing, I still use forms of address and I am able to get insight on situations quickly.

I am also not saying tag in funny photos, send funny links or Memes. I don't post anything wild on my facebook page anyways but just thinking before posting can really clear any trepidation. If it is not something I would say at the unit or in conversation with XYZ, then why would I type?
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Sir, JUST SAY NO! Sorry just had to say it. In all honesty I would say avoid connecting with subordinates on social media merely for sanity sake. I am continually surprised when I happen to browse the web and see some of the things my subordinates willingly post for all the world to see.
Connecting with peers has never been a problem as we are all about the same age, same maturity and have the same mindset about what's appropriate.
As a BN CDR I would say have a closed door session with you CSM about this, perhaps his/her reasoning as to why they do or do not connect with soldiers can answer your questions.
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COL Mike Walton
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Social media is a great way to interact with your peers and subordinates. However, you and they need to remember that they are interacting in a similar manner as meeting together at the Club or the food court.

You need to be respectful yet state your personal slant. Phrases like "personally" and "I'm taking off the rank for a bit" helps (you *never* take off the rank, but they understand that what follows is YOUR words not the command's words). You need to be aware that whatever you say or do reflects on the Army, your command, and your unit.

The best example of this is occurred as a Battalion Commander of a Public Affairs Operations Center in Iraq. The unit operated in rather close quarters in Kuwait and closer in Iraq. Conversations occur between subordinates and of course between superiors and subordinates. We had our opinions, ideas and some "this is screwy" comments also. They were professional, but personal. In a professional Army like ours, most of us know where that "line" is. There were conversations which were prefaced with "Sir" or "Ma'm" and some prefaced with "can I talk with you away from the rank, please?"

In my earlier days, it was prefaced by a command "permission to speak freely, sir?" That is kinda the same things which you should approach in social media also.

Accept your subordinates and peers' invites to join you in social media but remind them that it's NOT a substitute for using the chains of command and support to get things done. Most of them will know this, but a little reminder doesn't hurt. I played volleyball and lawn darts with several of my subordinates -- we cut up, tease each other, but it's done with respect and the appropriate level of ribbing. It builds espirt...

Final thoughts: like at that club or food court, you need to make yourself available as a human being -- for that separates our outstanding Army from all other nation's armies. When we lose the human aspect of being a Soldier, we lose impact that simple, honest and respectful communication can make. Also remember that when Patton slapped that Soldier in the dispensary and called him a "coward" didn't and wouldn't make for "thumbs up" comments then as now...make your comments known but keep your emotions in check. After all, most times they are looking to you...
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LTC Cavalry Officer
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Thanks Mike. I have always had an issue with "may I speak freely" as that it implies that the individual may be hiding something before then. Of course, as the subordinate in that conversation, I will have probably been doing the same! Ha.
I have tempered my Social Media contacts and have decided to only 'friend' subordinates on personal social media after I am not longer their boss. Of course, in some cases, I have become their boss again, but I don't remove them, so perhaps my logic is skewed.
At the end of the day, I do want to be personal, but don't want social media to negatively influence our professional relationships.
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Capt Chris McVeigh
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I would deny any FB request from one of my Marines. I don't see it as having anything to do with being personable and everything to do with a professional environment. FB is an environment for friends/family and entering your professional life into it with subordinates is not something I would consider appropriate.

Now if you maintain a "professional" facebook page I would see that as perfectly acceptable and potentially even beneficial as a leadership tool.
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Would you accept a LinkedIN or RP request to connect.
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LTC Barry Hull
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The first generation to grow up with the social networking we have now is in high school and college. I certainly hope they can develop some common sense rules to pass down to their kids. I had no experience to draw on for my kids. But I do know this --NEVER under any circumstances post anything you would not want to show to your Mother or your Sunday School teachers. Once it is out there, you can't get it back. It can be world wide in a matter of minutes. If you follow that one simple rule, you should not need to be worried who your FB friends are. My CSM in IRAQ came to me one day with the subordinate FB friend dilemma. He was not going to friend any of our Soldiers. Made sense, but like LT Rosa said, there is info there. It can't be ignored. In a number of cases we were able to stay head issues, often personal problems that for some reason a person will post on the net but not seek help form their COC. I don't see it as an issue as long as you stay professional -- as with all things.
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I would concur with that. I don't really post much but a good news story or that I'm at the gym. Most youth post some graphic and vulgar content. But when they do that I can get a good assessment of who they really are and what they are doing. I feel it is a tool that we can't leave out of our leadership tool bag.
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LTC Barry Hull
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Another thought is the Bn Chaplain can be EVERYONE's friend. But, that has some limitations as well.
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Someone in that role should be able to get a sense of the unit and be able to make a assessment on their spiritual well being. This would be a great tool for him. But I am not sure if newer soldiers would see it that way.
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