Posted on Sep 16, 2016
What is the proper way to address NCOs in different branches?
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As an E-4 in the Army, how would I go about addressing an E-7 in the Marine Corps or another branch? They call them Sir, do we as well?
Reason I asked I'm watching recruits from the USMC boot camp calling NCO's Sir/Ma'am, and for the Army we would call the cadre by their rank... But it was clarified below
Reason I asked I'm watching recruits from the USMC boot camp calling NCO's Sir/Ma'am, and for the Army we would call the cadre by their rank... But it was clarified below
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Posted 9 y ago
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The Air Force is notorious for overusing "Sir" and "Ma'am" for just about any rank and it's extremely annoying to say the least. I never considered myself a hardcore airmen who bleeds blue by any means, but I do think the Air Force should be more formalized in addressing each other by proper ranks and the enlisted corps should not be addressed using titles typically used for officers (e.g., Sir and Ma'am). Having gone through a joint environment tech school in the late 90s, it was obvious the Marines and Army took a lot of pride in being called their specific enlisted rank, whereas, in the Air Force, you are a "sergeant" whether you are E-5 (Staff Sergeant), E-6 (Technical Sergeant), or E-7 (Master Sergeant). It was only at E-8 and E-9 when the titles seem to change to "Senior" or "Chief". I personally took a lot of pride in being enlisted and always preferred being called "Senior" over anything else.
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Gunnery Sergeant is proper. Gunny if you know him/her. Guns if you truly know him/her. Sergeant if you don't know better.
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To me? No matter what branch, I would address a senior NCO of any branch by full rank. If corrected, I would apologize and refer to them by the correction.
Lower pay grade would be soldier(Army), sailor(Navy), marine(Marines), airman(Air Force)
Lower pay grade would be soldier(Army), sailor(Navy), marine(Marines), airman(Air Force)
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I think I would stick with Sergeant for Marines and Air Force. Navy always confused me.
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Once out of Boot Camp, NCO's and SNCO's were referred by there rank. SSGT Smith or 1stSgt.
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CPO Bill Penrod
One graduates from "boot camp". and becomes an NCO. Only Navy and Marines go to boot camp. Rarely if ever are they promoted higher than e-3.
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SSgt Timothy Smith
I was not referring to them getting the rank right out of boot. I was saying that after they reach the rank of Cpl and above they were referred to by their rank. Unless you are the SgtMaj of the Marine Corp and in which I have seen junior ranking officers him.
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Being a 1st class in the navy with 17+ years in an NCO hates being called sir or ma'am. You should study the NCO rankings for all militaries. An E-7 in the navy is a Chief, an E-7 in the army is a sergent first class, an E-7 in the Air Force is a master sergent, and a marine E-7 is a gunnery sergent. I hope this helps.
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If they are the same rank or below i call them by their last name. If they are enlisted above me I address them by their rank. If they are officers i call them sir or ma'am unless she is a WO then I call her sir. I still hold to the ranks even if they are retired and I know them. That's my spin up.
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SMSgt Patrick Sampson
I have worked with all branches as a medic to include Brits and coast guard. Never had a problem.
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well....if one is brave (or stupid...we all know that fine line), just address them like this-
"Yo Dude.....wut up"
LOL
"Yo Dude.....wut up"
LOL
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When I first showed up to my unit, I thought I knew rank structure, but then I was introduced to all new titles. At least in a Field Artillery Battery.
You have Gunner, Chief, Gunnery Sgt and Smoke. Those were the ones just in the firing battery.
You have Gunner, Chief, Gunnery Sgt and Smoke. Those were the ones just in the firing battery.
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SMSgt Patrick Sampson
When I got to the planet the FDC chief corrected me from calling him anything other than chief. When I transferred to the Air Force I found out the chief was not the same rank, got chewed out for that as well. Next I worked on the USNS Mercy and they had a bunch of chiefs, but I out ranked them so I didn't care.
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In the Army, E5 SGT through E7 SFC, you address as Sergeant. E8 Master SGT is addressed as MSG (Master SGT), E9 1SG is First SGT, E9 Sergeant Major is Sergeant Major (SMG) and E9 Command Sergeant Major is Command Sergeant Major (CSM). As for the Marine Corps, unless you're in Recruit Training and are instructed to address your Drill Instructors as Sir or Ma'am, in the fleet you will address them by their Title/Rank and Name "Drill Instructor Staff Sergeant Ledyard, Drill Instructor Sergeant Shelton. Gunnery Sergeant (insert name here), Master Gunnery Sergeant (insert name here). Navy and USAF? no clue.
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SGT Anthony Shore
I stand corrected Chief...MSG-CSM are all E8, however, I have not met a Master Sargent yet who did not get more than a bit miffed at NOT being called Master Sargent.
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SFC Andras Yaghjian
Hay Sgt Anthony Shore what Army are you in or was in??? E-8 is Master Sargent of First Sargent , E-9 is Command Sargent Major or Sargent Major.
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In the Marines if your still in boot camp everyone is sir or ma'am but after that it's by rank.
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You're referencing Marine Recruits. Recruits are not yet Marines and Sir/Ma'am is used by recruits intentionally until they graduate. Fleet Marines identify NCOs and SNCOs by their full rank, not the Army ridiculousness of Sergeant for every SNCO or "Command" Sergeant Major. Marines only differentiate the Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps...all others are simply Sergeant Major, no add Ins necessary.
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GySgt Joseph Jay Johnston
When I was in the corp we were a close unit, I was addressed as Gunny.
but that was back in the fourties,fiftys, Korea.Stateside it was Gunnery sergeant...
Lieutentant so,so..Capt,so and so.all formal. In the trenches,It was Gunny,LT. Cap'n.
but that was back in the fourties,fiftys, Korea.Stateside it was Gunnery sergeant...
Lieutentant so,so..Capt,so and so.all formal. In the trenches,It was Gunny,LT. Cap'n.
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SGT Anthony Shore
When I joined the Marine Corps in 1984, we were directed to refer to our Drill Instructors as Sir, and by rank. i.e. Sir, PVT Shore requests to speak to Senior Drill Instructor Staff Sargent Ledyard, Sir!. After graduation it's only by rank and generally you don't have to request permission to speak first however, it might be a good idea.
In the Army Basic Combat Training (which I was in from October 2007 to Feb 2008, you did not have to "formally" request permission to speak to a Drill Sargent but asking them if they had a moment to speak with you "respectfully" was always a good plan and, you addressed them as "Drill Sargent". After graduation, by "Sargent" only up to Master Sargent (they would get a little miffed for not including the "master" in their rank. Then, First Sargent, Sargent Major and Command Sargent Major. (and Plural of Sargent Major is "Sargents Major" not Sargent Majors.
In the Army Basic Combat Training (which I was in from October 2007 to Feb 2008, you did not have to "formally" request permission to speak to a Drill Sargent but asking them if they had a moment to speak with you "respectfully" was always a good plan and, you addressed them as "Drill Sargent". After graduation, by "Sargent" only up to Master Sargent (they would get a little miffed for not including the "master" in their rank. Then, First Sargent, Sargent Major and Command Sargent Major. (and Plural of Sargent Major is "Sargents Major" not Sargent Majors.
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GySgt Joseph Jay Johnston - And don't forget... Those with that "one-in-a-million" CO, who was affectionately know as the "Skipper".
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When I went to boot camp back in the early 80's. We called our company commanders and other staff at recruit training Sir or Ma'am. It was because of their position not their rank. And we learned pretty quick afternoon boot camp we didn't have to call other enlisted sir or ma'am. So if these are recruits, that could be what's happening.
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In boot camp, Marine recruits are taught to call everyone sir/ ma'am. (Except other recruits obviously) Once they earn the title Marine and are no longer recruits, they call NCO's by their respective ranks.
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You are talking about recruits. Recruits are not yet Marines, so they address the drill instructors as Sir.
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The Marines rank is damn near identical to the army.
E5 SGT
E6 STAFF SGT
E7 GUNNY SGT OR GUNNY
E5 SGT
E6 STAFF SGT
E7 GUNNY SGT OR GUNNY
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I find the more stars,stripes,bars,eagles, or anchors they're wearing, the more they like being called "bro" or "dude"
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