Posted on Apr 22, 2016
SSG Bethany Viglietta
195K
1.55K
729
101
100
1
I am an Army Recruiter and it would be great to share.

As we gear up to ship out some of our first female Future Soldiers in combat jobs, I ask of the members of RP, what is your advice for these young soldiers?

Please keep it constructive and nothing along the lines of they shouldn't be able to serve in these positions because that ship has sailed and opinions about how they should not serve in these positions are not going to change anything.

Edit: The conversation among RP members about mentoring these service members is amazing. Honestly, I did not know what to expect when I started the thread, because this is a subject many feel strong about. Thank you so much for all of your advice thus far, I cannot wait to share it with our female and male recruits and hope you share it in your ranks/communities as well. Together we are molding the future of the military.
Edited 8 y ago
Avatar feed
Responses: 403
SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
2
2
0
Stay alert, listen to the squad, team, or platoon leader, and there will be no problems, and everyone will get along and work well together.
(2)
Comment
(0)
SSG Bethany Viglietta
(0)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small
SPC Kenneth Koerperich
2
2
0
Edited 8 y ago
If your signing them & sending them into CA units, the very first question should be: "If you go to war, are you prepared to KILL or Be Killed?" No matter what training you have, there are people out there, who once they get put into the situation of do or die, they freeze up. This is a serious problem, & if the recruits are not prepared to do this, they should not be joining CA units. They are a liability that isn't needed.

Next question is, "Are you just trying to be PC/the first to do this, thinking it's going to advance you?" This is not acceptable either.
Last question, and touched on by a lot of RP members. Are you prepared to live w/ males who are rude, most foul mouthed, ass scratching, butt kicking bastards there are? While doing this, you will have no privacy, very few meals, no showers, hump un-godly amounts of miles w/ an un-godly heavy ruck, w/ little to no sleep?

If they answer yes, then sign them up & hope for the best. If they answer no, then find them a better MOS suited to their "safe" lifestyle.

CA units are not for the weak minded or faint hearted. Be prepared to push yourself to your limits & beyond. Before you do this, you have to be mentally tough, and willing to do what it takes. Just saying it doesn't make it so you can survive in the unit.

I remember one field exercise, average ruck weight 145 lbs, average distance traveled per night for 5 nights in a row, was 20 miles. Sun down to sun up. "Pretend mission Mr. Light Infantry, no support units, take the objective. Your here, it's WAAAAAYYYY over there." We humped every night, slept in hidey holes every day. Remember hearing the 1Sgt, who was a SpecForce/Recon from Nam, actually say, "Since when did I become a "flipping" mt. goat. We humped the mt range @ Hungry Lizard all 5 nights. Ended w/ half the unit ate up, yet we still completed the task @ the end of 5 days.

This is just 1 example of what CA units do, & I did this constantly for 3 years.

So prepare your new SM's properly. It's no cake walk/walk in the park.
(2)
Comment
(0)
SSG Bethany Viglietta
SSG Bethany Viglietta
8 y
SPC Kenneth Koerperich That should be the question asked of everyone joining CA and even the military. There are so many instances where those who didn't think they would see combat end up in the position of kill or be killed. Thanks for your answer. You are right, its not a cake walk.
(1)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small
SGT Jonathon Caldwell
2
2
0
B840514b
FM 3-21.8 learn it, like it, live it

INFANTRY 1-2. Of all branches in the U.S. Army, the Infantry is unique because its core competency is founded on the individual Soldier—the Infantry rifleman. While other branches tend to focus on weapon systems and platforms to accomplish their mission, the Infantry alone relies almost exclusively on the human dimension of the individual rifleman to close with and destroy the enemy. This Soldier-centric approach fosters an environment that places the highest value on individual discipline, personal initiative, and performanceoriented leadership. The Infantry ethos is encapsulated by its motto: Follow Me! 1-3. Although the battlefield may be entered from a differing range of platforms, all types of Infantry must be able to fight on their feet. To perform this role, each type possesses two distinguishing qualities. First, Infantry are able to move almost anywhere under almost any condition. Second, Infantry can generate a high volume of lethal well-aimed small arms fire for a short time in any direction. Neither movement nor fire are exclusively decisive. However, combined fire and movement win engagements. These two strengths reveal three distinct vulnerabilities to Infantry. First, once committed it is difficult to adjust the Infantry’s line of advance due to its limited tactical mobility. Second, determining the Infantryman’s load required to accomplish the mission is always in conflict with preserving his physical ability to fight the enemy. Third, Infantry are particularly susceptible to the harsh conditions of combat, the effects of direct and indirect fire, the physical environment, and moral factors. OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE COMBAT 1-4. Infantry platoons and squads have a distinct position on the battlefield—the point of decision. Their actions take place at the point where all of the plans from higher headquarters meet the enemy in close combat. This role requires leaders at all levels to quickly understand the situation, make decisions, and fight the enemy to accomplish the mission. Offensive close combat has the objective of seizing terrain and destroying the adversary. Defensive close combat denies an area to the adversary and protects friendly forces for future operations. Both types constitute the most difficult and costly sorts of combat operations.
(2)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SFC Senior Civil Engineer/Annuitant
2
2
0
Something I speak about all the time: Respect; always give it when you're able to, always insist it be given to you. That said, sometimes we need to remember this is the military and sometimes soldiers need to perform actions they don't like. Advise from an old 12B Line Dog.
(2)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
Sgt Field Radio Operator
2
2
0
SSG Bethany Viglietta Study hard and learn your job and the jobs of those around you. Have the backs of your brothers and sisters, and they will have yours.
(2)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SSG Recruiter
2
2
0
Never give up, no mater how cold, wet, tired, miserable, no mater how heavy the pack is, no matter how far the distance, never quit. If you quit once, you'll quit again, so dont ever let yourself quit.
(2)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SFC J Fullerton
2
2
0
Edited 8 y ago
My advice to them would be the same as any other Future Soldier regardless of gender or MOS. My advice to you, as the FS Squad Leader, is to ensure you use every resource available to you to prepare them mentally for OSUT. Do not sugar coat anything. I have been there, I know the pain of DEP losses. Sometimes we are so afraid of creating any anxiety or second thoughts that we try to shelter them from anything negative. In the end, we are not doing them any favors. They will be better prepared mentally to succeed when they know as much as they can up front. Helps minimize that fear of the unknown and gives them some self-confidence going in on what to expect.
(2)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
2
2
0
Edited 8 y ago
SSG Bethany Viglietta Super Question. Just be prepared mentality and phsysically to meet the standards, exepct the unexpected, be self-motivated, and don't expect any special treatment. At all times be professional, maintain the core values, and remember the reason you are there - to serve your country! I think there will be a lot of successful women!

https://youtu.be/xLw73qBUMYw
(2)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SSG Richard Reilly
2
2
0
Don't get pregnant?
I know that seems like a horrible thing to say but you train with a team and that team learns to rely on you. Then you get pregnant and they lose you as a force multiplier leaves a hole in the chain. I do believe females can enhance the combat force. But I also seen females hurt it through pregnancies and other issues.
(2)
Comment
(0)
PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Donald Murphy
8 y
LCpl Chad Parson - I had to get permission to get married in the 1980's. I was initially disapproved as my fiance was foreign. Not German or Japanese or Russian, just one of those subversive English, ha ha. I reminded them that my clearance was at such a high level that it would take a long time to get a replacement if I decided to smoke a joint (at the time, an OTH offense). Next thing I know I'm magically approved.
(0)
Reply
(0)
PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Donald Murphy
8 y
SSG Bethany Viglietta - Well sadly it is true. If I'm a sniper and get my wife pregnant, I'm still a sniper, right? If my wife's a sniper and gets pregnant, she's gonna be out of commission for a while and that will affect the team. The first Navy sub sailorettes were "asked" to make sure they were on birth control "for the time being." So I wouldn't be "shocked" to see the Army/Marines come up with similar "conditions" for service. What if your ten bird Apache squadron had six female pilots that all fell pregnant? Your squadron would be out of commission.
(2)
Reply
(0)
SSG Richard Reilly
SSG Richard Reilly
8 y
SSG Bethany Viglietta - I totally am pro woman in combat. Especially if they are a force multiplier. I mean I deployed of two sprained ankles carrying my full load with ankle wraps. If by some twisted sense of humor I got pregnant...I'm not going anywhere. Yes guys find stupid reasons not to deploy (not that pregnancy is stupid) however I've done more family care plan separations around deployment time than any other moment in my career as a paralegal.
(0)
Reply
(0)
PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Donald Murphy
8 y
SSG Richard Reilly - Yup - preachin to the choir brother. I was the admin officer and right before patrol, we'd have the line outside the office with sailors saying their wife was leaving, their parents died (again) and all sorts of stuff to get out of going to sea. And we only went out for two months!
(0)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small
LTC Tom Jones
1
1
0
Run.
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small

Join nearly 2 million former and current members of the US military, just like you.

close