Posted on Apr 22, 2016
SSG Bethany Viglietta
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I am an Army Recruiter and it would be great to share.

As we gear up to ship out some of our first female Future Soldiers in combat jobs, I ask of the members of RP, what is your advice for these young soldiers?

Please keep it constructive and nothing along the lines of they shouldn't be able to serve in these positions because that ship has sailed and opinions about how they should not serve in these positions are not going to change anything.

Edit: The conversation among RP members about mentoring these service members is amazing. Honestly, I did not know what to expect when I started the thread, because this is a subject many feel strong about. Thank you so much for all of your advice thus far, I cannot wait to share it with our female and male recruits and hope you share it in your ranks/communities as well. Together we are molding the future of the military.
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SSG Richard Reilly
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on the rank line is a "add" link.
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CPL Pieter Brons
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Hi Recruiter. If there are girls that want to fight in the front lines who are we, (guy's) to keep them out. But that means all the way. And being a girl and you get prisener be shure to know that being a girl they have a huge weapon to dammage the girl. They dont se the girl al a soldier the see that girl as a target, lust object. That sad they use rape as an act. Not crimminal only war relaten. That a discussion you have to be prepared for. That one is comming. Most of the combat is not in a city as Amsterdam or New York. Its mostly in the bush from a country that is ruled by ruthles systems unknown to western ideas.
It is posible to talk about is but preferably in prive mail. I have nonidea wher what i write is going to. In a mail i can mail it to a person.
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SGT James Colbert
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Trust in your NCO and your Chain of Support. As someone said you all wear the same uniform and will be trusted and treated as such.
As a 1sg told me once learn by doing, learn by making mistakes, take responsibilty for your mistakes, wear tough skin.
my last thought, from Gen Patton " I talk dirty, because i want it to stick and they will remember, i want them to fight for me , not kive me" (paraphrased )
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PFC Francis Ramseyer
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I am against female in US Forces except on desk job.
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PO2 David Welch
PO2 David Welch
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That's not what's being asked here......can you justify your position outside of misogyny?
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PFC Francis Ramseyer
PFC Francis Ramseyer
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You are right ! I will try to justify my position. I never raised above PFC because I had a good job before being drafted but, during my long carriere, I noticed that every time women where within a group of men, the men's behavior changed. Normal man are attracted to women and women are the same. I will go a long way to help an attractive woman and I could be distracted from the target. Beside, women do not have the strength of man. In the civilian life, I was CEO of a group and stopped working at 65, I am now 79 . During all these years, my observations were that women working with men always created problems , small or big. Physicaly, they are differents, they required differents attention. I believe that women in the Army is a good and necessary thing as long as they do go in combat unit.
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PO2 David Welch
PO2 David Welch
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PFC Francis Ramseyer - You're asserting that physiological differences and sex are at the crux of your position? Lets break this down a bit. Women, if they train can most definitely out do some soldiers I have served with filling the ranks. Also, your position is that it changes group dynamics to have women integrated with men. They are operating in a professional environment, there are things in place even in corporate america, but people will meet and things will happen. With that in mind, they are grown adults. In the field of combat, women, in administrative roles still faced the enemy and fought. If those women and sacrifice their lives when attacked, they should be able to go out and kill the enemy. There are forces in other countries that have fierce women fighters. We also have women in law enforcement, they to should be able to do what men do if they are capable.
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CW4 Chad Balwanz
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My only concern is the effect on family life during training and deployments. Military life already has high divorce rates. The spouce at home may find this a hard pill to swallow and could potentially lead relationship issues. It is not the job that bothers me, it is the unintended consequences on families, real or preceived.
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PO2 David Welch
PO2 David Welch
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Good observation, but is that not true with their male counterparts?
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SSG Explosive Ordnance Disposal Specialist
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As long as you can handle the job. Go for it! You only live once. Have no regrets.
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Sgt Timothy Fetterman
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Think about what you are able to do. If you are sure you are able to do everything a man can do, go for it. If you question it at all, don't do it. War is not going to get any easier because you are a woman. In fact, given the current enemy, it will get harder!
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Cpl Brad MarkW
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I think you need to temper their expectations. It's won't be anything like Call of Duty and it most certainly is not glamorous. For the most part, it was the hardest job and hardest years of my life. I view everything now through the lens of my time as an 0311. I was never colder, hotter, hungrier, more miserable than as a grunt. Purposely obfuscating that will do them a disservice. They will have to wake up one day before dawn, after getting 30 minutes of sleep, in the rain and realize that someone, somewhere with a POG MOS will be sleeping in for another 2 hours and going to work for 8 hours. That person will go home at 1600 and sleep in their own bed. They will not have that option. And that POG makes exactly the same amount of money as you, and has a lower cutting score for promotion.

I also think you'll have to prepare them adequately for the challenges they'll be facing as they integrate. As the first one's through the door, so to speak, harassment and resentment will be present - no matter how well the Army/Marines say they've gotten that under control. They can complain and seek EEO assistance all day long when it happens but that's not guaranteed to stop it immediately. In fact, it might breed resentment. Better to have that clear in their minds than expect some miracle of equal opportunity and tolerance right away.

You should also prepare them in the event that some will fail. Infantry jobs have a higher failure rate than other MOS schools. Injuries are common; cellulitis, torn ligaments, busted ankles and back injuries are the norm. Not all Soldiers and Marines are cut out to be an 03 or 11 MOS, that's just reality. Women will be no exception - injury being their biggest threat since in sports women can be 2-3 times as likely to be injured: and Infantry is not a sport, there are no time outs in training. Infantry MOS's are no joke. When I went through in SOI 1990, guys regularly dropped out or were recycled due to injury or failure to train, etc. Some never made it back and had to find a different MOS - many times not of their exact choosing. They should understand that that is a possibility. In theory, the training will remain as hard as it always has been and they will have to meet the standards or be dropped. Right now there are no male and female standards in the infantry, hopefully there never will be. No one is going to hold their hand through or pass them because they were "close". In theory.
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Cpl Chris Woodford
Cpl Chris Woodford
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Really these women need to have their head examined for even wanting to be a grunt. Who in their right mind would actually want to do a 50 mile hump on a regular basis; sitting in a fighting hole for 72 hours waiting for an attack, which will never come, while it rains on their ass for the entire time you are in the field.
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Cpl Brad MarkW
Cpl Brad MarkW
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They don't want to be in the infantry - no one in their right mind does. It's about equality and breaking down social barriers. To show women can do it, damn the consequences. They're worth the price for an equal society. Problem is, it's not a politicians son who'll get KIA for a social experiment, so the elites will never feel the pain, just get the feminist vote and continue on with business as usual.
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SSG Keith Amacher
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I had a number of female friends in the military I respected as I did my brothers and would go to war with them. That said, pick your brothers carefully they will protect you. When an Army Ranger decides psychotic that he wants you it will take one of us to defend you true story. Sad but true a female is no match for a psychotic spec opps operator unless they are also spec ops grade. Just be aware and know what your getting into.
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My advice would be to be thick skinned. Don't take anything said to heart. All anyone is going to try and do is break you down. Just carry on about the mission and see it done. Doesn't matter if you are male, female, black, white, or Asian we are all soldiers and have a job to do. So just go out there and put your best foot forward and Complete the mission.
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