Posted on Apr 22, 2016
What is your advice for Females joining the ranks of the combat jobs in the Military?
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I am an Army Recruiter and it would be great to share.
As we gear up to ship out some of our first female Future Soldiers in combat jobs, I ask of the members of RP, what is your advice for these young soldiers?
Please keep it constructive and nothing along the lines of they shouldn't be able to serve in these positions because that ship has sailed and opinions about how they should not serve in these positions are not going to change anything.
Edit: The conversation among RP members about mentoring these service members is amazing. Honestly, I did not know what to expect when I started the thread, because this is a subject many feel strong about. Thank you so much for all of your advice thus far, I cannot wait to share it with our female and male recruits and hope you share it in your ranks/communities as well. Together we are molding the future of the military.
As we gear up to ship out some of our first female Future Soldiers in combat jobs, I ask of the members of RP, what is your advice for these young soldiers?
Please keep it constructive and nothing along the lines of they shouldn't be able to serve in these positions because that ship has sailed and opinions about how they should not serve in these positions are not going to change anything.
Edit: The conversation among RP members about mentoring these service members is amazing. Honestly, I did not know what to expect when I started the thread, because this is a subject many feel strong about. Thank you so much for all of your advice thus far, I cannot wait to share it with our female and male recruits and hope you share it in your ranks/communities as well. Together we are molding the future of the military.
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I joined in 1975 into a fighter sq. I was all of 17 years old, I decided early on put up shut up and get out of my way there is work to be done. Most respected me because I wasn't a baby and I didn't put up with the "flyboy" mentality, I didn't make them change I adapted to them. Hey I joined a male club and I didn't expect them to treat me any different. Later in my career this attitude served me well as I became a loadmaster, oh and by then I was also a Grandma!
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Don't join combat arms unless you want your body destroyed, or you like being in a place that no one wants you there, you can compete with Men one on one in hand-to-hand combat, take the same PT test as men, because if you can't you will never have there respect, you don't mine being around a bunch of horny men, and don't forget a lot of pain and suffering. The list goes on but if this is what you want go for it, but remember this isn't a reality show.
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I am a former battery operated grunt and I know times have changed but combat hasn't. It is hard enough to watch one of your fiends die, but making that friend a female I think would it would be harder to accept. As male Americans since childhood we have been tought to protect, watch over, and treat females with respect. It's not that a woman's life is more precious or valuable than a mans but our up bringing would be our demise. Woman have been placed in combat over the past 14 years and that was in support roles,I don't think it is a good idea at all.
Cpl. Anderkin
Cpl. Anderkin
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It's difficult to say, women are very strong where men are weak and vice-a-versa. Not sure if America is ready and believe me, I've seen women do very tough and mind boggling things...if women are willing to serve and want to put themselves in that predicament, then give them the chance. On the other hand, how will it impact or improve situations on the battlefield? Can women respond to an immediate threat? Can they casevac a man or women larger than themselves? Will they deter attention from the mission because of their sex? Can they withstand the long hours and physical exertions while in a patrol or convoy? Many questions to answer but I'm sure women can bring something to the fight. I look forward to finding out.
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SSG Bethany Viglietta
MSgt Juan Garibay What is your advice for any soldier joining the ranks? Some small men cannot do the things you listed. Also, women are already serving and doing the physical exertions on patrol outside the wire in Afghanistan and Iraq. These are all great questions, but we are looking for advice for those who may be able to answer your questions.
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I was a Calvery Scout going on patrols were demanding enough, what about bathroom breaks? The need for privacy? I hope this as been taken care of.
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Hi Recruiter. If there are girls that want to fight in the front lines who are we, (guy's) to keep them out. But that means all the way. And being a girl and you get prisener be shure to know that being a girl they have a huge weapon to dammage the girl. They dont se the girl al a soldier the see that girl as a target, lust object. That sad they use rape as an act. Not crimminal only war relaten. That a discussion you have to be prepared for. That one is comming. Most of the combat is not in a city as Amsterdam or New York. Its mostly in the bush from a country that is ruled by ruthles systems unknown to western ideas.
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Trust in your NCO and your Chain of Support. As someone said you all wear the same uniform and will be trusted and treated as such.
As a 1sg told me once learn by doing, learn by making mistakes, take responsibilty for your mistakes, wear tough skin.
my last thought, from Gen Patton " I talk dirty, because i want it to stick and they will remember, i want them to fight for me , not kive me" (paraphrased )
As a 1sg told me once learn by doing, learn by making mistakes, take responsibilty for your mistakes, wear tough skin.
my last thought, from Gen Patton " I talk dirty, because i want it to stick and they will remember, i want them to fight for me , not kive me" (paraphrased )
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PO2 David Welch
That's not what's being asked here......can you justify your position outside of misogyny?
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PFC Francis Ramseyer
You are right ! I will try to justify my position. I never raised above PFC because I had a good job before being drafted but, during my long carriere, I noticed that every time women where within a group of men, the men's behavior changed. Normal man are attracted to women and women are the same. I will go a long way to help an attractive woman and I could be distracted from the target. Beside, women do not have the strength of man. In the civilian life, I was CEO of a group and stopped working at 65, I am now 79 . During all these years, my observations were that women working with men always created problems , small or big. Physicaly, they are differents, they required differents attention. I believe that women in the Army is a good and necessary thing as long as they do go in combat unit.
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PO2 David Welch
PFC Francis Ramseyer - You're asserting that physiological differences and sex are at the crux of your position? Lets break this down a bit. Women, if they train can most definitely out do some soldiers I have served with filling the ranks. Also, your position is that it changes group dynamics to have women integrated with men. They are operating in a professional environment, there are things in place even in corporate america, but people will meet and things will happen. With that in mind, they are grown adults. In the field of combat, women, in administrative roles still faced the enemy and fought. If those women and sacrifice their lives when attacked, they should be able to go out and kill the enemy. There are forces in other countries that have fierce women fighters. We also have women in law enforcement, they to should be able to do what men do if they are capable.
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My only concern is the effect on family life during training and deployments. Military life already has high divorce rates. The spouce at home may find this a hard pill to swallow and could potentially lead relationship issues. It is not the job that bothers me, it is the unintended consequences on families, real or preceived.
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