Posted on Apr 22, 2016
What is your advice for Females joining the ranks of the combat jobs in the Military?
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I am an Army Recruiter and it would be great to share.
As we gear up to ship out some of our first female Future Soldiers in combat jobs, I ask of the members of RP, what is your advice for these young soldiers?
Please keep it constructive and nothing along the lines of they shouldn't be able to serve in these positions because that ship has sailed and opinions about how they should not serve in these positions are not going to change anything.
Edit: The conversation among RP members about mentoring these service members is amazing. Honestly, I did not know what to expect when I started the thread, because this is a subject many feel strong about. Thank you so much for all of your advice thus far, I cannot wait to share it with our female and male recruits and hope you share it in your ranks/communities as well. Together we are molding the future of the military.
As we gear up to ship out some of our first female Future Soldiers in combat jobs, I ask of the members of RP, what is your advice for these young soldiers?
Please keep it constructive and nothing along the lines of they shouldn't be able to serve in these positions because that ship has sailed and opinions about how they should not serve in these positions are not going to change anything.
Edit: The conversation among RP members about mentoring these service members is amazing. Honestly, I did not know what to expect when I started the thread, because this is a subject many feel strong about. Thank you so much for all of your advice thus far, I cannot wait to share it with our female and male recruits and hope you share it in your ranks/communities as well. Together we are molding the future of the military.
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You are part of the problem. Some of these young women are going to end up in a terrible situation and you are the one that helped put them there. I hope you are proud of yourself.
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1LT Orion LaPalm
OK then my advise is to tell them several terrible situations that could end up happening to them. If you don't, that is the same as lying to these women. If they still decide to join, you can sleep well because you gave them all the information to make a an informed decision.
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SSG Bethany Viglietta
1LT Orion LaPalm - You keep using the words terrible situation. Do you mean Rape, sir? Or death because they are closer to the front lines?
If you mean rape/assault, this is an entirely different conversation. We should not keep women out of positions because their brothers might rape them. That's the wrong answer. The right answer is to educate EVERYONE because males can get raped as well. The only way to stop this is to educate everyone and get them to step up when something happens. Otherwise you may as well castrate everyone who joins.
If you are talking about injury or death, anyone who joins the Army learns about that danger. No job is excluded when it comes to this terrible situation.
If you mean rape/assault, this is an entirely different conversation. We should not keep women out of positions because their brothers might rape them. That's the wrong answer. The right answer is to educate EVERYONE because males can get raped as well. The only way to stop this is to educate everyone and get them to step up when something happens. Otherwise you may as well castrate everyone who joins.
If you are talking about injury or death, anyone who joins the Army learns about that danger. No job is excluded when it comes to this terrible situation.
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1LT Orion LaPalm
Thank you for helping to weaken the U.S. military. This does create an opportunity for more counselors, lawyers, and doctors though.
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CPT Richard Fematt
This is all bullshit all it will lead to is new group of orphaned children without their mothers all for what the chance for equality. No one wants to say it but I'm old school and I've seen epic failure in the Marine Corps and the Army in regards to women. This is a disaster in the making. A social experiment that is going to get soldiers killed. Point blank females do not belong in combat jobs even if they meet the standards.
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Agree w/ SGM Marquez that color and gender should not matter in the military. There's a lot to be said for team diversity with a positive mental attitude and for collaborating to overcome any single teammate's shortcomings. Having built a dozen award-winning teams at as many assignments, I know how to get the whole team on track for our big-picture goals instead of dwelling on our differences.
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SSG Bethany Viglietta
SMSgt Steve Neal Yes! As long as our leaders think like this and act as professionals we will be good to go. I ran out of votes for the day, but owe you an up vote. Turns out you only get 75 votes per day.
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SMSgt Steve Neal
Thanks for your service and for the "up vote"! I truly believe the leadership deficit at the top of our executive branch is the root cause of all this dividedness and disparity throughout out military. All of us who serve have a better handle on what it takes to be good citizens than those we should look up to in D.C.
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I have worked with men and women in civilian and military police units. I will share this: I have worked with men and women who were built for the job and I have worked with men and women who should have never been in that position. Toe the line. Hold your own. Bear the burden given to you and don't let anyone give you crap. But most of all understand what you are getting yourself into. It won't be a walk in the sun and most won't want you there. Good luck and change your socks!
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As a social worker, i have seen many women traumatized by military service and how their treated both on the battlefield and off. My advice? Protect yourself and remain vigilant ladies, reconsider what you're doing and do what your loved ones want you to do. Be true to yourself always.
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My advice is to be resilient support the other females that are going through the course. Most of all watch the guys, for they will use you femininity against you.Stay focused, stay on point and guard your assets. If you have to cry of which you will, go to a corner or alone and let it out . The more you are told you can not this will be when you will be more determined to succeed.
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Know what the real mission entails. Do not watch movies for your research. Find someone who has combat experience in a real line company. This does not include supply, mechanized units ect., but only those whose primary job was/is to put a pack on their back and march. Look at the study the Marine Corps did on combat related jobs that was provided to the DOD and congress which showed the impact combat related jobs have on the body male and female. Ensure your expectations are realistic.
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Do your best... Stay focused...maintain situational awareness at all times.
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There is no gender affiliation with the title Soldier. Best advice I could give is achieve what you set out to be. If you want to be infantry, be the best at it you can be and don't let anything stand in your way!
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Do your job. Strive toward excellence in all areas, physical, technical, tactical, and personal. You'll be judged by your peers and superiors. Prove their doubts wrong. Put the team first, always. Ask for help if you need it. Offer help without being asked. Never quit. Many of your peers will expect you to quit when things get tough. Let them quit before you do and then pick them up without judgment. Don't ask for special accommodations, don't seek special favors. Be part of the team, hang out with the guys, not just the other females. Don't make excuses. Accept responsibility for your failures (there will be some), and give credit to your teammates for successes. Once you are accepted, you'll be treated like everyone else. Will the judgment you face be fair? No, but then life is not fair. Remember, you are walking point for all the female combat arms soldiers who follow you. Don't lead them into an ambush.
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DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT expect "special treatment" PERIOD!!!! If you can't hack it change career fields this is a mostly male (NOT FEMALE) position you want in then learn to fit in that's it!
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