Posted on Apr 22, 2016
What is your advice for Females joining the ranks of the combat jobs in the Military?
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I am an Army Recruiter and it would be great to share.
As we gear up to ship out some of our first female Future Soldiers in combat jobs, I ask of the members of RP, what is your advice for these young soldiers?
Please keep it constructive and nothing along the lines of they shouldn't be able to serve in these positions because that ship has sailed and opinions about how they should not serve in these positions are not going to change anything.
Edit: The conversation among RP members about mentoring these service members is amazing. Honestly, I did not know what to expect when I started the thread, because this is a subject many feel strong about. Thank you so much for all of your advice thus far, I cannot wait to share it with our female and male recruits and hope you share it in your ranks/communities as well. Together we are molding the future of the military.
As we gear up to ship out some of our first female Future Soldiers in combat jobs, I ask of the members of RP, what is your advice for these young soldiers?
Please keep it constructive and nothing along the lines of they shouldn't be able to serve in these positions because that ship has sailed and opinions about how they should not serve in these positions are not going to change anything.
Edit: The conversation among RP members about mentoring these service members is amazing. Honestly, I did not know what to expect when I started the thread, because this is a subject many feel strong about. Thank you so much for all of your advice thus far, I cannot wait to share it with our female and male recruits and hope you share it in your ranks/communities as well. Together we are molding the future of the military.
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Young Soldiers are just that, young Soldiers. Give these Army prospects the same advice you would give any young recruit; there will be a rough road ahead, stay focused and remember why you are joining the greatest Military in the World. We don't know what lies ahead for any Soldier, and 100 years from now is very uncertain, but we do know it's the people with bravery to challenge traditions who will shape it.
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....... the question asked was about "women"being sent into Combat. I have read many of the responses and agree with several. however it wasn't asked should females be permitted in the Military, it was should they be 'joining' Combat Units ? Many of you have "danced around" the real answer, (for both Male & Females) ....... Are you ready to take another Human Life ???....... Can you, with-out hesitation Kill a person ? If your answer is No, or I don't know, I do-not trust you to "have my back" when the shooting starts.
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Hi Staff Sargent I Dont Really Have Any Advice Other Than To Tell Them To Be Honest With There Self Before They Join For Those Type Of M.O.S. If They Feel They Our Physically And Mentally Cut Out For Those Roles A Lot Of Women Our But Unfortunitly Some Are Not As Well As A Lot Males Today As Well But Unfortunitlly These Women Will Be The First To Try And All Women After Them Be Judged By How They Handle There Selfs I Wish Them All The Best I Was Glad Two Hear That Two Woman Graduated Ranger School Last Year That News For All Future Women To Come I Surved In The 1980s The Military Was A Very Chuvanistic Military Back Then I Had A Fiance Back Then Who Surved In The 82ND Airborne Training Men To Go Over And Fight For Us But At That Time Even Though She Was More Than Qulified They Would Not Let Her Go Unfortunitll She Long Gone Now I Wish She Lived Long Enough To See This Happing .Wish Them Luck From Me A Former Infantryman With The 10TH Mountain Division Who Suports Them Serving BE All You Can Be It Still Fits As A Motto
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My squadron had 2 of the first women to fly combat aircraft in the Navy (A-6 Intruder training squadron). The standard was to land on an aircraft carrier at night. You can't lower that standard. As a former USMC infantry guy (enlisted & officer), I believe the Army infantry has standards that haven't failed it for 230+ years. Much like what SGM Marquez says: Do your job, carry your weight, do more than your share of the task. In the end, to a small unit, what matters most is the content of your character.
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Don't ask for special treatment. We are all doing our part! There will be folks who can not control themselves, but that is their problem and there are serious consequences for that. If a female can meet or beat the regs, then more power to her! I did it and so can others!
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I would say this to everyone in uniform. It is going to be a challenge. When I joined, women were only allowed in admin rolls. When they opened none combat support rolls, it took years to figure things out. Stuff you don't even think about until you hit E-7 or O-3. TO&E's had to be changed to add extra tents and supplies. Ever thought about adding feminine napkins to the unit mod kit? Just be patient, it is going to take time. These are the things that are going to be hard. No one has ever questioned their ability to fire a weapon.
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If women who aim to meet the same standards as their male counterparts actually meet or beat their male counterparts, then they should have the same opportunities open to them. Look at the strategic opportunities for female combat teams that can go into sensitive areas where males might not be able to get in. However, I want to see combat MOS soldiers held to standard for what the job requires. If they can meet those standards without a lowered bar, let them serve in that capacity. If not, reclassify them to a specialty where their skills and capabilities match up, just like the military is supposed to do everywhere else.
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SPC Wanda Vergara-Yates
To the recruiter, look for the combat specialty mentality because there is one. If the person has it and can meet the physical requirements, great. If not, encourage them to look elsewhere for the best fit. There is a job for everyone. I ought to know because I did not fit the "soldier" ideal that I had in my mind before joining. To the women: Pull your fair share, no more, no less. Earn your respect and keep earning it without worrying whether you get it or not. Sooner or later, the rest of them will come around. Know where to draw lines, how to respond to sexual advances without coming off as crass, crude or bitchy. Even today, you still have to explain to males which jokes and phrases are appropriate to you and which are not. Give them respect that they earn as they give you the respect you earn. HAVE THEIR BACK! If you have their back, sooner or later, they will become your strongest defenders when you need them the most.
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SFC Jim Ruether
Good Response SPC Vergara-Yates,
I think you are 100% correct. If they can do the same job, within the same standards and feel they have the same mind set to be in combat then go for it.
I think you are 100% correct. If they can do the same job, within the same standards and feel they have the same mind set to be in combat then go for it.
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This is so simple, plain common sense. Just as in any civilian position, just make sure you are FULLY CAPABLE of performing the tasks related to your job/MOS. Dare not ask for special considerations, neither biological nor physical reasons. Show fairness and you will be treated fair. Immediately draw the line which NO ONE (same gender included) CANNOT cross. Equal performance will result in equal treatment, promotions, leadership positions, etc. Forget about being male or female: JUST BE A SOLDIER
HOOAH !!!
HOOAH !!!
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I would tell them to nail the fundamentals of shooting and land navigation. Stay true to your fellow brothers and now sisters in arms. Be as fit and as strong as you can, as you may have to drag or carry the person next to you if injured, and always keep a motivated and positive attitude.
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