Posted on Apr 22, 2016
What is your advice for Females joining the ranks of the combat jobs in the Military?
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I am an Army Recruiter and it would be great to share.
As we gear up to ship out some of our first female Future Soldiers in combat jobs, I ask of the members of RP, what is your advice for these young soldiers?
Please keep it constructive and nothing along the lines of they shouldn't be able to serve in these positions because that ship has sailed and opinions about how they should not serve in these positions are not going to change anything.
Edit: The conversation among RP members about mentoring these service members is amazing. Honestly, I did not know what to expect when I started the thread, because this is a subject many feel strong about. Thank you so much for all of your advice thus far, I cannot wait to share it with our female and male recruits and hope you share it in your ranks/communities as well. Together we are molding the future of the military.
As we gear up to ship out some of our first female Future Soldiers in combat jobs, I ask of the members of RP, what is your advice for these young soldiers?
Please keep it constructive and nothing along the lines of they shouldn't be able to serve in these positions because that ship has sailed and opinions about how they should not serve in these positions are not going to change anything.
Edit: The conversation among RP members about mentoring these service members is amazing. Honestly, I did not know what to expect when I started the thread, because this is a subject many feel strong about. Thank you so much for all of your advice thus far, I cannot wait to share it with our female and male recruits and hope you share it in your ranks/communities as well. Together we are molding the future of the military.
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Women in combat rolls it the way things are going to be.-----Bitching ans whining about ti won't change things----That having been said--there can not be a lowering of standards for privilege characters----It we're in the same boat, as it were, we all have to take a turn rowing. Unfortunately if Hillary Clinton is elected, we may see a quota system for women, something I don't believe any member of the military, man or women wants to see. Mrs. Clinton will undoubtedly make these changes to be politically correct, and could care less about the lives of soldiers than Henry Kissinger did.
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SSG Bethany Viglietta
1SG Patrick Sims Amen 1SG. Standards across the board will be great for the Combat Arms branch. We all know that there are men who likely should not be in Combat Arms, but end up there because their ASVAB score was too low. Now the new implementation of the OPAT will ensure those going into combat arms, whether male or female will be strong and agile.
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1SG Patrick Sims
S/Sgt. I've been out of the military for sixteen years and can't speak to what's going on today. Anyone who is allowed into combat arms---be they male or female must be able to do the job. If combat arms has become a dumping ground for people with low ASVAB scores, the lion share of the fault rest with the commissioned commanders who let it happen. Until times are better, you're going to have to put your head down and march on. Hopefully with a new president this will change---or grow worse, depending on who is elected.
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My advice would be to practice at cleaning yourselves subtly and quietly using only baby wipes and cold water. Learn to take jokes, to include dirty, sexist, and racist jokes. People who will watch each others backs in combat, people who would die for each other, don't typically rat each other out for small time jokes. When it gets out of hand, when it causes a diminishing of good order and discipline like sexual assault or racism beyond the point of playfulness and gets to the point of divisiveness, then it needs to get reported, or get the soldiers will take care of it themselves. Always try to solve your problems at the lowest level, only move up when it fails to work or actually makes it worse. Grow a sense of humor, don't lose your modesty, and don't grow a romantic relationship with any one in your unit. That goes in both directions. Down to squad level and up to division level, stay away from romantic relationships. If you really want to marry a military person, find one in a different division. Let the men get comfortable with you to the point they are not watching what they say to the point of lowering the morale. Learn to pee in a bottle.
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Plain and simple Listen and Learn They are a Soldier who happens to be female not a female Soldier
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I was a Soldier for a total of 30 years, (10 Reserve 20 Active) and served two tours in Iraq as a boots-on-the-ground battlefield intel analyst. Nothing is easy. If you're getting shot at, mortared, or bombed, that's combat regardless of MOS. Now that I have those facts established, my advice is to approach "combat arms" the same as other jobs; with all the best efforts, dedication, and enthusiasm possible.
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It doesn't matter what sex you are it's about the job you are there to do. For both man or woman both have challenges they have to meet in order for them to even be there. It should not be about what gender you are but about the job that has to be done. Yes it will be unconfortable at first working side by side but when focused on the mission at hand nothing else should matter.
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You made a choice, you own it. M 240 gets heavy after awhile and your feet will hurt so will your back. Expect no special treatment
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As a combat veteran I have to disagree with the Ash Carters decision to send females forward into combat arms....war is real as it has changed the lives of many men
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Enlist in an MOS you can be successful at. I dont know of any women that can sling 120lb rounds on a ten round fire mission in Artillery. I would rather entice the new recruits with infantry type assignments like being a sniper or common foot Soldier that would set them up for a successful long career!!
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CPL James Ross
SSG Donnie Lowery - I have and I was the Powder-Man on an 155 mm Howser. It kept me hopping to keep-up and I was only 19. I just cannot vision any female keeping up that kind of pace.
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Don't complain about the training, or anything assisociated with their new job. Stick together. Remind one another it will not be easy and they are the future of what is to come. If they set bad examples all females behind them will suffer from it. Keep their personal life.... Personal. Do not date instructors or fellow students. There will be time for that later. Above all do not make excuses for failing. Strap up the boots and charge on. Weather they like it or want it, they will be role models.
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