Posted on Aug 1, 2015
SPC Andrew Griffin
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SGT Anthony Rossi
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My first thought is that it is true! And that it doesn't undermine the value of anyother life. It's the same as saying "God Bless America". The phrase doesn't mean that I don't want another nation to be blest. It simply means my focus, at the moment, is on America!
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SPC Andrew Griffin, at the risk of offending you, I find the slogan racist. A*L*L Lives Matter, and that includes the police officer's life. But the thing that gets me is that people who want to have a confrontation with the police seem to be the last ones to hear, "Black Lives Matter." It's as if they want to be martyrs.

The big guy who had a heart attack from being choked several months ago ... What he was doing was illegal. He was asked, reasonably politely, to stop. He didn't. 6 cops gathered around him and he still felt that it was more important to argue with the police at the risk of his own life. The police ARE NOT going to back down, when they are enforcing the law. So EVERYONE, regardless of color, should recognize that it's YOUR life you are risking when you want to have a physical confrontation with the police. (And that's EXACTLY what you are asking for if you get in an argument with the police. This isn't debating club and no judge is going to award you points for eloquence. There's only TWO possible endings: 1) Yes, officer, I'll do as you say, or 2) You wind up at the bottom of a flesh pile with your arms twisted behind your back and someone's forearm around your neck.)

And then there's Baltimore (I think) where the Mayor flat out says the police are going to back away so people can express their anger. And what happens? Black businesses are looted and burned to the ground by black thugs. Yep, there was no one killed by a white police officer that day, but does black livelihood matter? The guy who owns the business that feeds his family and pays his mortgage - does that matter?

I could be wrong, but it seems that I mostly hear that as an excuse from gangsters who want to loot and their apologists like Al Sharpton. But what I'd like to hear is from the owners of the businesses burnt to the ground, or the workers who lost the jobs they had when the business was looted to bare walls ... is this an appropriate response for something bad that shouldn't have happened, and are you satisfied with the cost you had to pay for it?
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SPC Alejandro Martinez
SPC Alejandro Martinez
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Great Answer!!!!!
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Cpl Nicholis Christian
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all lives matter, the fact that there's groups using this slogan to instill racial diversity for a profit, like Al Sharpton, when has he onces talked about black on black violence.... I'll wait.

facts based on statistics, white cops shooting blacks is a very low percentage, why is it you don't see this when a black cop shoots a black? and statistics show clearly, not being racist, blacks are more prone to violence, hell watch world star if you don't believe me. Cops have a right to protect themself, case in point the cop shot here in Memphis Tn, cop rolls up on drug deal gets shot and killed, the cop is a former Marine,

so my interpretation is this, to the NAACP, and other so called Black leaders, Black Lives Don't Matter, unless its to flame the fires of division, and line their pockets with money.

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Al Sharpton, pay your taxes
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SPC Alejandro Martinez
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I agree.
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SSgt Senior It Security Analyst
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Every life is precious regardless of the color of their skin.
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SPC Alejandro Martinez
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I agree.
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PO2 Peter Klein
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It means that we are still a racist society. Only when we integrate will our economy bloom.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
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Great! Great Answer!
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SGT Registry Nco
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From my brief readings on the topic and the background history of the movement. The slogan is not discounting that all lives matter, however, it is saying that black lives are just as important as any other race. I think the media does over exaggerate things in the news, however, I think that with this movement this country is having an open discussing about race and race relations within this country. Police brutatlity and things of that nature have been going on for years, however, with the evolution of social media and camera phones it just makes it much easier to spread the word about things that are going on in our country,
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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Great Answer!
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"Police Brutality" is often brought on by Thugs being Thugs. By Thug, I mean any derelict of any color acting a fool and doing things that should get them arrested! I work with Police Officers and 99.999% of them are honest and do a great job! The breakdown of the family has caused what we see on the streets of America today. This ridiculous narrative about young, "innocent" black children being gunned down in the streets of America is a crock of Liberal garbage! To all Thugs - white and black alike - invest in a belt, pull up your pants, and be a man!
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Sgt (Join to see) I respect your opinion although I don't agree. However I am not going to turn this into a discussion about the definition of police brutality. My response was simply my interpretation of The Black Lives Matter Movement
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COL Charles Williams
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Not sure... I see it around here (signs)... I personally believe all lives matter. It is a sad state of affairs SPC Andrew Griffin when we have to say "black lives matter." Nevertheless, My interpretation is that we (our nation) continue to trivialize black Americans, and we need to stop and take notice. Again, I don't see the world that way... but, I realize not everyone sees this the same. I believe everyone matters.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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I agree with you! ALL LIVES MATTER!
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Maj Mike Sciales
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I think it served an excellent purpose - to focus our national attention and discussion about race and a part of it was noticing that there are way, way too many black folks turning up dead, way too often. In the old days you'd know locally and sometimes you'd see stories about stuff in other cities, but it was hard to keep track of. Now, with video cameras, America has had it's collective eyes opened. We've always known there were bad cops. Most often people said "It's just one or two bad apples" and we had to accept that. But after Rodney King we started watching, but still, it wasn't reflective of any "culture" and then came the iPhone and later and body cameras and now we can see what happened. We've seen direct evidence of cops killing people. Ferguson caught the national attention, the more recent murders (no other word) and attempted murders have gotten attention. If we are one track for 1,000 Americans to get killed by the police, I think we need plenty of independent video coverage. The good news I see police culture getting the message and change is underway. This is a great example of social media directing positive results.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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GREAT POINTS!
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Cpl Glynis Sakowicz
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I tend to go with ALL lives matter. Being of mixed race (Cherokee, Black, Irish, Scots, Norweigan and French) I was raised to believe in ML King's words, and consider each person by the content of their character. That said, I know fully what its like to face bigots and racists, of all sorts, and I try never, ever to forget what that felt like, so I will treat each and every person as a person and nothing more.

Now, knowing that, you might understand why I was totally horrified and shocked by the OUTRAGE when a man on a news blurb stated that ALL LIVES MATTERED, and he was booed down! I heard later, he even voiced an apology for saying that. Why? What was so wrong in stating the truth that every life, black, brown, red or white does matter?

I guess I'm just too old, and too dang confused to understand this world lately. We are a single race... just different amounts of Melanin in our skin based on where our ancestors lived. Maybe we just all need to sit down over a pizza and talk this crap out for once, and find common ground where we can all proceed from there. Just saying
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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I Agree with you! ALL LIVES MATTER!
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Cpl Software Engineer
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Here is what is sad... our own government is investing in keeping racism alive with OUR tax money. Who controls the administrative branch and the bureaucracy? That's right, the executive!

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/08/u-s-pays-black-comedian-to-deliver-anti-white-racist-tirade-at-fed-agency/
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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Thank you Brother! I'm reading it now! This is Crazy!
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