Posted on Jul 13, 2015
SFC Andrew Kretz
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Upon my retirement in 2013, I felt excited and happy for the new adventure that I was about to start; however, at the same time I felt extremely overwhelmed and at times dumb. Dumb to the information that was being provided to me, such as the survivor benefit plan. I will admit that the instructor tried to explain it; however, the understanding that I had has never sat that well with me or even my wife. I understand that between the 25th months through the 36th month is the only time that I will be allowed to cancel this plan, and there is rarely an open season enrollment option available.

What is your opinion, if any, on the survivor benefit plan?

Are there better options in the civilian sector to buy into that will provide your beneficiary with the monthly payments?
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MSgt Doug Miller
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I'm not happy about the fact that you don't get anything back if the spouse passes first. I only have four years to go so I'm not worried about it anymore.
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SFC Jon Vandeyacht
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I did it. If your frugal you can find better or cheeper. I can afford the 214 a month that i pay. My wife is supposed to get her 55%. It isnt much but i have legion 10k vfw 10k and other life ins. The wife should be able to pay off all debt upon my death, and be able to live on the 1600/mo or so of my pay. She will also get the va dic if its service connected death and that is where filing a claim for service connection on everything comes in handy. I prefer easy and SBP is easy. I will pay a little extra for the easy button.
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MGySgt Kenneth Krueger
MGySgt Kenneth Krueger
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Your wife cannot receive DIC and your full SBP. Currently there is a dollar for dollar offset. Hopefully congress will change the law. In my case, I am paying the full SBP, but my wife will only receive 30% of what she should have received from SBP because she will qualify for DIC. I am 100% P&T. She will eventually get 70% of my SBP premiums refunded without interest.
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SFC Jon Vandeyacht
SFC Jon Vandeyacht
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Thats right. I forgot about that. Thanks..
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SFC Bill Graham
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I got my SBP briefing while clearing Finance on retirement. It was short, but pointless. I took it THEN did my researchand personally I see it as an annuity.

After I retired I got licensed as an investment advisor and I would recommend SBP over civiliancounterrpart based on costs versus benefits.
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LTC Michael A. Staves
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I do not know if it has changed since I retired but I viewed it as too short term with a shelf life as people live much longer now. 65 comes fast and you might as well pay term insurance which also has a shelf life. Best is mutual insurance and one should obtain it young as it goes up significantly as you age.
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Lt Col David Wilson
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If you are concerned about survivor benefits for your spouse, you have three options to consider. The SBP, a Cash Value Life insurance policy, or a Revisionary Annuity. I suggest you meet with a financial advisor in your area (usually 3-6 months prior to retirement) and get illustrations for the Life insurance and the RA, and do you own compairsion to see which is the best deal for you and your family. Each has costs and benefits; the key is understanding what they are before you have to decide.
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CAPT Hiram Patterson
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The only thing I don't like is the amount of money taken out to support the SRB program. But I had to do it to assure that my wife would get the 55% of my retired pay when I passed. Supposedly after you paid into the SRB for 30 years, the payments go away. But I've heard that pretty much never happens. Of course I have to pay $396 a month which is a killer.
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PO1 Glenn Boucher
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To be honest the way I saw SPB is that its over priced life insurance that you have to die quickly for in order for your spouse to get paid. I could be wrong but no matter how I looked at it, it just didn't make sense to do it.
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Edited 9 y ago
SFC Andrew Kretz
My wife and I discussed SBP and decided that it was in our best interest to opt out. Going through all the red tape to do that (both of us signing a statement and getting said statement notarized by a Navy Legalman) was a pain in the ass but worth it. In my humble opinion private life insurance is the way to go.
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MSgt Keith Hebert
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The only problem with the plan that I have is:
If your spouse dies before you, you will not get the money back that you paid into it
If I am wrong please correct me
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SFC Andrew Kretz
SFC Andrew Kretz
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Sounds the same as the GI Bill. A person pays into it and if they do not use it, they lose it and do not get their money back.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
MSgt Curtis Ellis
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I believe this is correct... After I retired, the spouse and I ended up divorced... I had planned to go in and stop the payments, but was asked if I think I would re-marry... I was told that I could continue paying into it if I thought I would, and should I re-marry, I could make the new spouse the beneficiary... Sounded like a great idea at the time, and it still may be... I figure I'll wait another 5 to 7 years and decide then... I think that puts me under the limit to recoup, at least, what I have paid into it since I am divorced... Provided I understood Finance correctly...
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MSgt Keith Hebert
MSgt Keith Hebert
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Plus as gray area retirees we do not start paying into the program until we start drawing our retirement
Does that sound right
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SFC Andrew Kretz - Except most people have more control over whether they go to college than they have over whether they outlive their spouse.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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SFC Andrew Kretz I would recommend that you shop around for something else. I requested one of the options, but the amount you have to pay for the options is quite large and reduces you take home retirement pay for the benefit. I believe there are other options. I refuse to mention any because I'm not an expert. When I start drawing my retirement pay at age 60 (different for retired reserves, but same Survivor Benefit Plan) I plan on opting out and taking my chance with a long and healthy life. I have choice to use a life insurance policy instead of the Survivor Benefit Plan, hoping that the other half will be drawing SS Benefits when I'm gone! It is a personal preference in the end. I just think the cost is too high during the years you are alive and trying to live off your retirement income. There are others on RP that can probably provide some very good advice.
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