Posted on Mar 18, 2019
What kind of items would typically be carried in a butt pack?
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I have been cleaning my issued equipment for the last few drills, and I cme across a butt pack of sorts that goes on the back strap of my LBV, and got to wondering, what kind of items would be typical carry in said pack?
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SPC(P) (Join to see) do you operate mounted or dismounted? Butt pack sucks if you are in a vehicle.
I had in mine:
- poncho folded and tied down with straps so it doesn't come a mess. (I had 4xOD bungees on my ruck frame so I could put up emergency shelter, now you can't use the frame that's way, I'd put them in your buttpack)
- gallon zip lock with mole skin, small scissors, neosporene, Imodium, cold medicine, other OTC first aid items
- VGS-17 Signal panel, folded and tied in a square, to mark obstacles on a HLZ or Signal aircraft
- 8 x Red Chemlights to mark a medevac HLZ at night.
- emergency length of 550 cord
- ziplock bag with fire starting items
- space blanket new in package
- stripped down MRE
- demo knife (pre-leatherman days...I'd stash a multitool)
- spare pair of socks in sandwich ziplock
I had in mine:
- poncho folded and tied down with straps so it doesn't come a mess. (I had 4xOD bungees on my ruck frame so I could put up emergency shelter, now you can't use the frame that's way, I'd put them in your buttpack)
- gallon zip lock with mole skin, small scissors, neosporene, Imodium, cold medicine, other OTC first aid items
- VGS-17 Signal panel, folded and tied in a square, to mark obstacles on a HLZ or Signal aircraft
- 8 x Red Chemlights to mark a medevac HLZ at night.
- emergency length of 550 cord
- ziplock bag with fire starting items
- space blanket new in package
- stripped down MRE
- demo knife (pre-leatherman days...I'd stash a multitool)
- spare pair of socks in sandwich ziplock
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Thank you for the list Sir, and I run mounted usually, I'm one of my Unit's PLS drivers. I agree that they suck, the clips tend to dig into the most uncomfortable places on my back, since we don;t use body armor. That list would be very handy though, as my equipment of that nature is usually on my ruck, which is strapped down under a tarp behind the engine. My concern would be the added bulk there on my arse while I'm in the truck.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SPC(P) (Join to see) - yeah, I ended up dumping all that into a ditch bag and put it in my butt pack if I ditched the vehicle. I was a Maintenance Platoon Leader, while it did happen it was few and far between. Im 6'4" and the space in the front of a M998 was at a premium for me. With all the crap on, could barely get the seat belt buckled. My head was in the roof. A little more forgiving in a 984 or a 936 but not much.
I Didn't take it on and off. This was pre-Body armor. I had a customized load bearing rig. I took off metal clips and rigged it with 550 cord. Four 5.56 Ammo pouches (6-9 mags, small binos, drift, needle nose pliers), compass, ALSE gear survival knife, holster, 9mm ammo pouch, two canteens, 2xaid pouches (1x compression bandage, other was for my GPS), pace count beads, old school H Strap suspenders, mini mag light with red lense.
Mini mag light, aid pouch, and pace count beads were on my suspenders. For a while I had a patrol clip on my right suspender to hang my weapon off of when I needed both hands free so my M16A2 hung straight down my right side. I cut off the metal clips and ran 550 through the straps to the ammo pouch and butt pack clip eyelets.
I Didn't take it on and off. This was pre-Body armor. I had a customized load bearing rig. I took off metal clips and rigged it with 550 cord. Four 5.56 Ammo pouches (6-9 mags, small binos, drift, needle nose pliers), compass, ALSE gear survival knife, holster, 9mm ammo pouch, two canteens, 2xaid pouches (1x compression bandage, other was for my GPS), pace count beads, old school H Strap suspenders, mini mag light with red lense.
Mini mag light, aid pouch, and pace count beads were on my suspenders. For a while I had a patrol clip on my right suspender to hang my weapon off of when I needed both hands free so my M16A2 hung straight down my right side. I cut off the metal clips and ran 550 through the straps to the ammo pouch and butt pack clip eyelets.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SPC(P) (Join to see) If you are mounted, butt pack is bad. Move instead to an assault pack that stays in the cab with you. You can use a packing list similar to LTC Jason Mackay 's and maybe add a woobie or other cold gear, depending on weather concerns.
When you dismount, take the assault pack with you, as long as you keep it light, it serves essentially the same as the butt pack.
Unless, of course, you already have a bunch of other stuff in the assault pack. In that case, try a flyer's helmet bag. But that would stay in the cab when you dismount.
When you dismount, take the assault pack with you, as long as you keep it light, it serves essentially the same as the butt pack.
Unless, of course, you already have a bunch of other stuff in the assault pack. In that case, try a flyer's helmet bag. But that would stay in the cab when you dismount.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SFC Casey O'Mally - the JLIST takes up a ton of room. You can attach pouches on the Assault ruck.
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You can fit two SAW drums in there, to "balance out" the two carried on the front in SAW pouches.
That's what I got to use mine for back in the olden days.
That's what I got to use mine for back in the olden days.
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I've seen unit SOPs that had all kinds of crap in them, but I found them uncomfortable to wear if you have to sit in a vehicle. They're not bad for dismount patrols and for carrying a plussed up CLS kit.
I personally just kept all my air items in there. It's the perfect size for the H harness and lowering line.
I personally just kept all my air items in there. It's the perfect size for the H harness and lowering line.
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