Posted on Feb 9, 2019
LTC Stephen Conway
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I belonged to an Idaho ANG Cav Brigade and two California ARNG armored battalions but we used Abrams Tanks back then. I noticed these tanks parked near The Joint Lewis-McChord Range Control office. I would like to know a little bit more about these tank models and if the main guns are different. Fort Lewis has had an exceptionally cold winter week with 8 inches of snow falling in the last 24 hours and a state of emergency declared by the Washington State Governor. The forecast calls for dropping temperatures. The temperature currently is 29° but it's supposed to drop to near-zero F tomorrow.
p.s. I was stranded at the USO in Seattle for 3 days since most flights were cancelled due to snow shutting down Vancouver, Seattle and Portland airports.
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It would appear the closest AFV to you is an M-60 Patton (Cold War Era) and the one further away could be an M-41 Walker or an M-47 Patton of possible Korean War / Cold War vintage.
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SSG Orderly Room Ncoic
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the closest tank is the M60, the m48-ish turret is a sure sign of it's model.
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some people are claiming that the front tank is a M60A1, it is not. It does not have the wedged shape turret (EDIT rather the T95E7 turret) but the original M48 turret with the distinct M60 commanders copula on it. It is the original M60, not the A1 or A2, but the M60, go learn so vic ID or google some knowledge.
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the M60 was a stop gap due to the advancement of russian armor, the M60A1 is a true M60 series tank, where as the original M60 (around 300 made) was meant to fill the ranks until the real deal was available.
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so at the end of the day, it's just a bastardization of a tank with the M48 turret on a M60 chassis.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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M60A1-A3 fired a 105 mm round
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LTC Stephen Conway might be a 90 mm round for that one
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Not sure but great picture!
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What kind of M60 tanks are these and what is the main gun size?
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All M60 variants were 105mm except for the M60A2 which was 152 mm with a stubby gun tube.
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
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LTC Stephen Conway M60A2 had the same gun as the M551. I worked on the turrets on both from 1974-1978 3rd ACR.
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
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LTC Stephen Conway M60A2 same gun as M551. I worked on turrets of both 1974-1978 3rd ACR
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LTC Jason Mackay
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LTC Stephen Conway - yeah the M60A2 had a 152mm it was an abject failure but it was in service. The 152mm shot several rounds. HE, Flechette, and the tube launched Shillelaghs Anti Tank Missile as a response to keep up with the Soviets who rolled out a tube launched AT missile.
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LTC Stephen Conway
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CW5 Jack Cardwell my mistake since I didn't join an Abrams tank battalion until late 1999 so I had no idea.
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SSG Robert Velasco
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I believe that particular tank is a M-48 remnant from the Vietnam war. It has a 90 MM main gun and is extremely rugged. I visited Yakima training center in the 80's with my tank battalion but we utilized M-60 and M-60A1 tanks fitted with the 105 MM main. During training in the field at Camp Roberts Hunter Liggett we were assigned M-48 tanks and enjoyed it more than anticipated because of the history behind them. That was my favorite place BTW.
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LTC Stephen Conway
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I know that Camp Roberts and Hunter-Liggett are about 30-40 miles apart.

I have been to both many times but not in the armor capacity except at FHL in 2000. It can get so damn hot over there!
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SSG Robert Velasco
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LTC Stephen Conway it was hills, valleys, trees,streams and wildlife. Of course it's in California. But it's great to reminisce with a fellow Armor expert anytime. Going there we were expecting arid,dusty unforgiving terrain. It wasn't.
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SP5 Ralph Arvizu
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An M-60 is an M-60, is an M-60! They (M-60 Tanks) are ALL the same. It had a 105 Millimeter Main Gun.
The M-48 had a 90 Millimeter Main Gun. I took Armor training in a M-48 and went to Vietnam with C Co 2nd Bn 34th Armor in August 1966. When I came back from Vietnam in June 1967 I was assigned to the Armor School in Ft. Knox and they had the M-60 there.
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105 1,400 meter zero range , heat hep, high explosive rounds and white fosrus.
SSG Robert Velasco
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Anti personnel or Apers and the sabot round are also widely applied. But you're right.
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SSG Robert Velasco yes and Sabo gold tip sabo
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The sabot was our main round of choice and don't underestimate the apers (Anti personnel) round.
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ONE ON LEFT LOOKS LIKE THE FIRST M60, ONE ON RIGHT LOOKS LIKE MABY A 48
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They look like M60A1’s to me! They had a 105MM main gun, M85 .50 cal MG in the Commanders Cupola and a M219 .30 (7.62) cal for a coax and an M60 .30 cal (7.62) in the loaders hatch....great tank! If you had some OHT (oil hydraulic test), safety wire and a hammer you could keep it going forever!!
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105mm main gun. We had those on the M-60s and the original M-1. The cool thing about the 105 is that we had so many different round options. My favorite was the white phosphorus rounds. They made a huge mess and burned everything.
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