Posted on Jul 17, 2016
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MCPO Roger Collins
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All these awards mean nothing once you leave the service. Most wouldn't know one given to you for graduating boot camp to a bronze star, unless identified at a military related function. Unless you are AD, no one really cares.
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Their is no award for graduating Boot Camp, I belive you are referring to the National Defense Service Medal. The NDSM is awarded to those who volunteer for the Military in times of a "national emergency" such as war.
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CPL Joey Weaver Jr.
CPL Joey Weaver Jr.
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People do care. If the DOD would ,put all service members who did more than 2 years(cold war). sometime almost 3 years on foreign soil. certainly they can award an OSR to the man or woman who did such a long strenuous tour. What is it with our politicians, who seem to remember vets on Memorial day and veterans day. The men and women who put on the clothes of the military have earned the respect of a nation. It starts with politicians. All the flag draped coffins could have been anyone who got off his or her butt, and enlisted to do whatever was needed. It was not my fought I spent 2.5 years in germany and a war did not happen. Probably because we were on guard at all times. Give the OSR to every veteran who spent time on foreign soil.
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CPL Joey Weaver Jr.
CPL Joey Weaver Jr.
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I believe the world has been in an emergency since forever. Enlisting when there is no active war going on is just as important as if there was one. the men and women of the cold war did their job and did it well. No warsaw pact forces ever entered west germany through the Fulda Gap.
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It means something to the people that earned them. I served one and a half years in Germany, 1981 - 1982. Ok, there was no war. I still served and I volunteered. I was not drafted. It means a lot to me
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SFC Opsnco
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Direct from HRC website:
Overseas tour completion is determined by AR 614-30. If a Soldier is credited with a normal overseas tour completion, then the Soldier may be awarded the OSR. Tours lengths for Iraq and Afghanistan have NOT been established. All requests for exceptions to policy will be processed through the proponent of AR 614-30.

Q3: How long do I have to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan to be awarded the OSR?
A3: IAW AR 614-30, Soldiers who serve a minimum of 11 cumulative months (within a 24 month period) or 9 continuous months in a TCS/TDY status may receive overseas tour credit for a completed short tour.

Q4: I deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan from an OCONUS duty station. Am I authorized the OSR for my OCONUS tour and for my tour in Iraq or Afghanistan?
A4: Yes, when a Soldier is serving OCONUS on a prescribed tour and is deployed OCONUS on TDY/TCS status. The original prescribed tour is not interrupted and the Soldier may receive credit for two tours provided he/she is awarded tour completion credit.
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SFC Opsnco
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SSG(P) (Join to see) - Q3 assumes you are deploying from the US (CONUS). Q4 is for SMs deploying from Overseas (OCONUS). Under the regulations someone deploying from OCONUS is essentially "double dipping" but the regulation is written so the SM is not penalized for essentially completing two tours.
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How do determine from that OSR if they even participated in the war? There is no way right?
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CPL Joey Weaver Jr.
CPL Joey Weaver Jr.
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So the OSR, is only if you participated in a War?.....I heard that the COLD WAR was a war, even when shots were fired, they were hushed up, so many Americans put their life on the line, but have not been accepted...The Military, should fire all of thos who do not recognize a soldier, or a sailor, or a Marine...Many men never went to War, they stayed stateside, and earned, many Medals, those who served, during the cold war, went abroad, and never even received, a thank you note....Yes I am looking for a medal honoring cold war warriors, who stood guard, so Americans could still enjoy life...If your not with me, then obviously you are against me.
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CW4 D. Jason Cardona
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Hey Sergeant,

You're supposed to be a leader. If you can't research the answer to this question; turn in your stripes. Pick up a regulation and find the answer yourself.

You're welcome,

Chief C
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CW4 D. Jason Cardona
CW4 D. Jason Cardona
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SGT Jerry Couch - I'd like you to cite your/a source on how that is a "proven fact." I spent 10 years as enlisted and 11 as an officer. I earned every damn thing that I have on my uniform.

Are there Soldiers that game the system to get stuff? Sure. However, there are now measures in place to curb those actions. I've seen SGMs and Senior NCOs go on TDY to Iraq and Afghanstan to get Combat Patches, etc. It's not just Officers that engage in this type of behavior. It is any Soldier that is unscrupulous enough to take advantage of the system.
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CW4 Larry Curtis - what's a safe zone lol?
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SPC Joey Medina
SPC Joey Medina
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To Sgt up there. You’re suggesting a more efficient leader directs to a source over berating without giving any help. As someone who chose the job over the rank, I don’t see the need to dismiss one leader guiding in one field for another leader that will guide in another field without guiding in the field of the previous leader also. We all know there’s more than one way to do anything. Our soldiers are multi faceted individuals who are above average in a number of different skills and that mental growth is clearly seen on entrepreneur veterans.

Although I can not speak for OP since text context is limited, in a upgraded leadership environment there is leaders teaching and leading how they know. While I agree that some of the guys/gals could use better knowledge of resources, I also believe that the softening of our military is a more pressing matter, still not a reason to dismiss your leadership.

In the contrary, leaders with different leading methods, further normalize diversity as a concept, and encourage critical thinking and complexity. Skills are perishable and each is honed differently.

Softening as the pop culture pampering that has made its way through the gates. At home and foreign country training enviroments where “impossible” is the job more often than not, and mental and physical endurance are basic requirements.
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SGT Phelan Hoover
SGT Phelan Hoover
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Hey i've seen some ignorant Warrant Officers asking stupid questions on here too. So, it can be a round about pony show, its just chickens can tell or let and enlisted know, what they think. As a matter of fact, I am answering a question for a Warrant Officer on the next page. Who cant tell how long he has to be in Iraq or Kuwait in country to receive his Over Seas Service Ribbon OSR. That requires reading a book too. Oh, to the Sergeant First Class, instead of sticking your head up and officers asshole, for a change. Dont be so heavy to weight more crap on the enlisted.
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