Posted on May 22, 2020
What regulation covers taking terminal leave when your unit is scheduled to deploy?
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I ETS July of 2021. I’m looking to use my Terminal leave and leave sometime at the end of April or beginning of may. My unit is suppose to deploy sometime next year and I was wondering what the regulation is on that and how it would work with me ETSing?
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Don't share your deployment date here, but usually there is an EAS cut off for deployments. If they deploy any later then Jan, you may fall into that group. Have you spoken to your SNCO about this?
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The same regulation that governs ordinary leave. Leave is up to the Commander. Make a plan and work it with the COC. There might be a unit or installation policy on terminal leave, but the regulation leaves it to commanders to manage. Army Regulation 600–8–10
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Leave is the commanders policy. You technically could submit for leave and it be denied and you could ETS without taking any leave.
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COL David Turk
Cadet 2LT (Join to see) - unit commanders have a lot of different authorities that relate to unit mission readiness. It doesn’t mean an individual won’t get terminal leave. It means the commander has the final say (based on the impact on unit readiness). When I first went in, marriages had to be approved by your unit commander (I assume that’s no longer the case).
Isn’t this covered in ROTC?
Isn’t this covered in ROTC?
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COL David Turk
We spent the whole year training tactics for Advanced Camp this summer sir. Wasn't too much administration learning, but since 21 is the last year,maybe .
We spent the whole year training tactics for Advanced Camp this summer sir. Wasn't too much administration learning, but since 21 is the last year,maybe .
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COL David Turk
Cadet 2LT (Join to see) - wasn’t meant as a “ding”; just couldn’t remember if I picked it up in ROTC or when I was active enlisted. If they haven't covered it, it would be good for you to do a quick look up. Talk to your active duty cadre (previous commanders) to get you pointed in the correct direction.
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Unless they are related, they are completely separate.
What I mean by that is that unless the unit decides to use you in a critical deployment role, in which case you would likely end up involuntarily extended (stop loss), your leave is not affected by their deployment. The unit will already count you as a readiness loss, and you should be allowed to ETS like normal. (Working your SFL-TAP process may be more difficult, because you *will* be expected to support the unit and help push them iut the door - baggage details, packing containers, inventories, etc. Start early to allow yourself time to work around unit schedule.)
That being said, as has been mentioned already, the Commander *can* deny leave for any reason or no reason at all. No Commander worth the title will deny it for no reason, and all Commanders I have seen (even the shitty ones) will approve terminal leave if they can do so within their mission requirements. That is not a guarantee, but your chances are high. And they are even higher if you have that conversation with your CoC NOW. They will give you better and more accurate info than we will - they know the specifics of the deployment, the unit, your role, and the unit's expectations of you.
What I mean by that is that unless the unit decides to use you in a critical deployment role, in which case you would likely end up involuntarily extended (stop loss), your leave is not affected by their deployment. The unit will already count you as a readiness loss, and you should be allowed to ETS like normal. (Working your SFL-TAP process may be more difficult, because you *will* be expected to support the unit and help push them iut the door - baggage details, packing containers, inventories, etc. Start early to allow yourself time to work around unit schedule.)
That being said, as has been mentioned already, the Commander *can* deny leave for any reason or no reason at all. No Commander worth the title will deny it for no reason, and all Commanders I have seen (even the shitty ones) will approve terminal leave if they can do so within their mission requirements. That is not a guarantee, but your chances are high. And they are even higher if you have that conversation with your CoC NOW. They will give you better and more accurate info than we will - they know the specifics of the deployment, the unit, your role, and the unit's expectations of you.
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