Posted on Jan 9, 2022
What's the best way to sign documents from a civilian laptop, trapped in the new mil mail system?
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Is there a way I can sign a trapped document while in the mil mail system through my civilian laptop in the span of the Army Cloud Drive without having to need a military ARNET computer so I could at the very least send it on it's merry way?
Further, I now realize, if this system continues to work as it works even if I were to be given military computer for a future command I would not be able to have copies of key documents regarding that command once I turn in said lap top.
I was pondering another Command while I'm a CPT, but now I see all sorts of road blocks that will make what I already experienced even 10X harder.
Further, I now realize, if this system continues to work as it works even if I were to be given military computer for a future command I would not be able to have copies of key documents regarding that command once I turn in said lap top.
I was pondering another Command while I'm a CPT, but now I see all sorts of road blocks that will make what I already experienced even 10X harder.
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ARNet portal remote through citrix on a civ laptop and CAC reader, then just use Outlook (if the ARNet Portal is still available https://aramp.usar.army.mil .)
And it looks like you should be able to download and upload documents on teams with a civ windows machine, just worked when I tried it. That does not work on linux.
Truth be told, when we can finally sign docs in Teams, that will save tens of thousands of hours a year.
Also, if you to get GFE, (Govt Furnished Equipment, and every MDAY/TPU commander should have one) everything you want to retain for future records (all documents, all pst files of everything you sent and received on Outlook, etc), you can just burn to dvds before you give the laptop back. That's how fulltimers manage switching laptops every 2-5 years.
And it looks like you should be able to download and upload documents on teams with a civ windows machine, just worked when I tried it. That does not work on linux.
Truth be told, when we can finally sign docs in Teams, that will save tens of thousands of hours a year.
Also, if you to get GFE, (Govt Furnished Equipment, and every MDAY/TPU commander should have one) everything you want to retain for future records (all documents, all pst files of everything you sent and received on Outlook, etc), you can just burn to dvds before you give the laptop back. That's how fulltimers manage switching laptops every 2-5 years.
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Assuming there no spillage or PII issues, and that you have your own CAC reader (they're pretty cheap now, and commercially available) you can always forward the item to a civilian email address, save the documents to your computer, do whatever signatures are needed, and then just forward back the signed version from your PC.
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
Pretty much this, forward mil emails to your civilian email address so you can download and sign. Alternatively, citrix ARnet remote desktop.
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I was doing that forwarding to civilian, but I just happened upon a Hard Stop with a DA638 (it was for myself) because the system identified PII. I of course didn't need to sign it, but I am unable to down load it for myself. So I'll never have a record of the draft until "if/when" it is authorized as an award and then finally iPerm'd. But, if the USAR is hard stopping things going back and forth via e-mail they should also hard stop iPerm's for the exact same reasons.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
CPT (Join to see) if all you need is a copy, you can convert a PDF to a PowerPoint, send it past the filter, and then reconvert it back to PDF at the tail end.
This assumes you have the full Adobe package on your computer.
This assumes you have the full Adobe package on your computer.
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SFC Michael Hasbun - is there a way to keep the CAC signature of someone doing something like that. I'm thinking to scenarios where I am signing something with an additional CAC signature (counsel statements, etc....)
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Thanks for the responses. It validates my current SOP, and challenges.
Completely different area of discussion, but I can sit pretty where I am in my current USAR slot till I retire, and not be exposed to the headaches this causes on a grander scale than my personal affairs.
I will not be exposing myself to commander duties/slots unless I can be confident I can navigate the administrative requirements I barely skated by as a CO while a LT. Even the challenge of a Gov issued device poses problems when the device needs a hard line ARNET connection to receive updates. This poses even further problems when the Unit is hundreds of miles away and the possibility of an entire system reload is required when hard line ARNET activity cannot be guaranteed.
It's more common than one thinks with AT that are nowhere near an ARNET, and holiday months like DEC potentially not having an BA weekend causing two periods a year where as many as 60+ days between connectivity.
As petty as it sounds, something this insignificant can be the foundation of a unit meeting readiness metrics or not.
Completely different area of discussion, but I can sit pretty where I am in my current USAR slot till I retire, and not be exposed to the headaches this causes on a grander scale than my personal affairs.
I will not be exposing myself to commander duties/slots unless I can be confident I can navigate the administrative requirements I barely skated by as a CO while a LT. Even the challenge of a Gov issued device poses problems when the device needs a hard line ARNET connection to receive updates. This poses even further problems when the Unit is hundreds of miles away and the possibility of an entire system reload is required when hard line ARNET activity cannot be guaranteed.
It's more common than one thinks with AT that are nowhere near an ARNET, and holiday months like DEC potentially not having an BA weekend causing two periods a year where as many as 60+ days between connectivity.
As petty as it sounds, something this insignificant can be the foundation of a unit meeting readiness metrics or not.
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That is a shame, even a Guard laptop receives updates on a remote link.
I had mine in Jordan for a year on remote, and when I take my laptop home every weekend I keep it logged in on Sunday night for updates to save myself an hour every Monday morning.
I had mine in Jordan for a year on remote, and when I take my laptop home every weekend I keep it logged in on Sunday night for updates to save myself an hour every Monday morning.
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