Posted on Nov 29, 2020
What's the current status on height and weight flagging?
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So I've heard from different people that soldiers can now be flagged for hight and weight and possibly failing the new pt test. I've searched everywhere for the documents supporting this but is this really true?
Height and Weight
Army Regulations
HRC
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Soldiers have always been required to pass height and weight, there was never any exceptions due to COVID.
APFT is gone, only people who have a failing APFT are required to pass one. No one has to pass the ACFT until March 2022
APFT is gone, only people who have a failing APFT are required to pass one. No one has to pass the ACFT until March 2022
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H/W flagging is unchanged. The Army Directive was only for APFT / ACFT.
ARMY DIRECTIVE 2020-06, ARMY COMBAT FITNESS TEST, 12 JUNE 2020. This directive establishes the Army Combat Fitness Test (ACFT) as the Army’s physical fitness test of record, replacing the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT). The ACFT replaces the APFT as the Army’s physical fitness test of record beginning 1 October 2020. The Army will no longer conduct the APFT after 30 September 2020. The only exception is articulated in AR 350–1, paragraph F–5k, for Soldiers who failed their last record APFT. https://www.milsuite.mil/book/docs/DOC-824747
ARMY DIRECTIVE 2020-06, ARMY COMBAT FITNESS TEST, 12 JUNE 2020. This directive establishes the Army Combat Fitness Test (ACFT) as the Army’s physical fitness test of record, replacing the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT). The ACFT replaces the APFT as the Army’s physical fitness test of record beginning 1 October 2020. The Army will no longer conduct the APFT after 30 September 2020. The only exception is articulated in AR 350–1, paragraph F–5k, for Soldiers who failed their last record APFT. https://www.milsuite.mil/book/docs/DOC-824747
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Back in the day it was lax, we had some real fat bodies in boot, they all made it though. One thing our DIs did was to get everyone standing at the end to pass everything, no one left behind, but they got extra attention with PT. I gained 31 pounds, I went from 151 to 182 lbs.
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As of right now Units are not authorized to conduct HT/WT, if a Soldier has to attend NCOES they will use there last HT/WT and APFT. If a Soldier fails the ACFT the Soldier cannot be flagged for the ACFT for it is still in the training phase, however the Command can make the failing Soldier attend remedial PT. Also all Soldiers are still required to meet HT/WT standards IAW AR 600-9 and you best believe once COVID Restrictions are lifted majority of Units will conduct a %100 HT/WT. If you need documentation or have specific questions about flagging from ACFT/APFT or HT/WT you can always reach out to your Installation IG.
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Yep. There are going to be a ton of height/weight failures at first battle assembly after covid restrictions are lifted. Going to be insane. I just hope everyone in reserves and guard that has fallen off the wagon is just like 2 weeks of a little extra gym time and dieting from getting back into standards.
Covid has been hard on a lot of the reservists/guard members. I know me personally I have no access now to a gym because the one I had access to has been closed since March. I lift, do sit ups and push ups at home, and run when I can. Tough time of year too for keeping weight off due to the time change, colder weather, and holidays.
Covid has been hard on a lot of the reservists/guard members. I know me personally I have no access now to a gym because the one I had access to has been closed since March. I lift, do sit ups and push ups at home, and run when I can. Tough time of year too for keeping weight off due to the time change, colder weather, and holidays.
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MAJ Daniel Buchholz
My Guard unit did a 100% HTWT/BF in October. The results were then entered in IPPS-A. Per the revised guidance that is the standard as they clarified that performing periodic HTWT/BF testing was not/not suspended..... (people just associated it with the APFT and assumed it was, though it is different and has a different testing frequency)
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There's nearly a two year period of time where folks are rewarded for being in shape. Those that failed APFT time after time have missed a golden opportunity to coast.
I'm curious if units (reserve especially) are using this time to shore up their passing APFT/ACFT numbers. Passer's don't have to take a record, and fails once passed don't have to take it again in the near term. Fails can be whittled down.
There's a one way door to get to passing scores.
I'm curious if units (reserve especially) are using this time to shore up their passing APFT/ACFT numbers. Passer's don't have to take a record, and fails once passed don't have to take it again in the near term. Fails can be whittled down.
There's a one way door to get to passing scores.
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I'm on my civilian computer, so unfortunately I can't access HRC website. I recommend starting there. Search the MILPER and ALARACT messages. Also, I recommend you seek out S1 to see if they have heard of or received any guidance on that. Because, last I knew the HT/WT is still a thing. It's the APFT/ACFT that has changed. If you failed an APFT when all this started, then you need to take a Record APFT to get unflagged. If you passed an APFT, then you will no longer take an APFT. Your next test would be an ACFT. However, based on current guidance, if you fail the ACFT, it will not be counted against you until 2021 or 2022.
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This has always been the case. All Soldiers must meet height and weight standards. There are a few temporary waivers acceptions.
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Height/weight/PT failures, taping failures have always been a flag issue since before god. Hell kid, Audie Murphy had to try several times to get in due to being under weight.
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Height and Weight standards have always been in place and have always been enforced. This isn't a new thing regardless of branch. From what I have read online there are extensions to the new Army PT test. But anyone on active duty is expected to stay within height/weight standards and everyone on full duty without restrictions is expected to meet all physical fitness requirements.
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