Posted on Jun 27, 2018
What's the fastest way to drop airborne status?
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I recently reenlisted after a break in service. I made it clear that I didn't want to jump anymore but I am now sitting on orders with the 82nd. Due to past events I no longer want my airborne status. Anyone that can help that'd be great. And if you're just going to say trash then go else where. Thanks
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I will assume you are coming back to active duty as a prior service. If so contact your recruiter and work to get those orders amended quick. The fact is that you are not in active duty service until the day you swear your enlistment oath, sign your DD Form 4, and shipped to your duty station or assigned training.
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Here's a link to AR 614-200 take a look at paragraph 5-3. It talks about that when you come up on assignment to an airborne unit, you must sign a statement stating that you either accept or decline it. If you decline the assignment, it looks like your airborne status is terminated and the P identifier removed. If you sign that you accept the assignment, you then have to serve 36 months before you can voluntarily terminate your jump status, unless you become physically unable to jump. Otherwise, it looks like you would have to refuse to jump on an actual jump, and then face UCMJ action for that. But it seems from reading the reg that the idea that a soldier can just decide to terminate anytime they want without facing UCMJ action is no longer valid.
https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN6692_AR614-200_Web_FINAL.pdf
https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN6692_AR614-200_Web_FINAL.pdf
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I've read the reg but I haven't seen or signed anything for accepting the assignment. But I think that's done during in processing into the 82nd
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SPC (Join to see) - it may well be-- I am too long out of the loop to be current. It would seem odd to me though, that the Army would pay the costs to move a soldier to an airborne assignment without getting the acceptance first. That way if the soldier declines, he can be rerouted to somewhere else. I had the impression that it occurs when you get assignment instructions, before orders are actually cut. But I really don't know how that relates to someone coming back into the Army.
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You used to be able to voluntarily terminate. They can’t voluntold you to jump.
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I just talked to s1 about doing the 4187 and they said I need documentation for a reason to terminate or it wouldn't get approved
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Sgt Wayne Wood
Bullshit... run it up the pole anyway.
Nobody wants a ‘voluntary termination’ in their readiness report.
Nobody wants a ‘voluntary termination’ in their readiness report.
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SPC Kevin Jo, sorry about your situation but in reality since you had airborne wings on your file is normal to return you back to jumpstatic. Remember Branch make the decision & the only best thing for you is once you complete your first contract pick Drill SGT school or change MOS, is your only way out. Enjoy Airborne for now but you can complete this task, good luck ok Brother.
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DA FORM 4187, PERSONNEL ACTIONS. Go talk to your S1 for a sample for how its filled out.
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I did and they told me I needed supporting documents on why I don't want to jump i.e. medical
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Your jump status is between you and your commander, s1 has no say in it. If they wont give you the sample talk with your leadership and get some rank behind you. But once the 4187 is signed, expect to go somewhere else. 82nd doesn't want non jumping 11B's.
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You can still be sent to the 82nd and not be on Airborne status. Contact your branch manager and tell them that you do not accept Airborne status. Usually, you would sign an Airborne acceptance letter at your Levy brief. But, since you're coming from she MEPS station you don't have that option.
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I don't really have a problem being in the 82nd but I don't want to jump anymore. Tried to do a 4187 and they said I needed supporting documents or it probably wouldn't be approved
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If you are trying to remove your Airborne status you need supporting documents and 4187. But, if you are on assignment to an Airborne unit you have to accept or reject the Airborne assignment in an acceptance letter. If your Levy section is giving you difficulty, call your branch manager and tell him that you do not accept and Airborne assignment.
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Everyone has their reasons and you have to do what's right for you. If you are staying in the 11series you might want to check out 11M. .Bradley units tend to overconcentrate on Bradley gunnery and often the "GIBs" guys in back, are undertrained. Coming from an airborne/light infantry background, you could help your company become more proficient in fieldcraft and expose them to different ideas, tactics, and techniques. I can understand the need to consider orher options. See what's out there and go for it!
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Lol that wouldn't drop airborne. They'll just wait till it's healed and throw me right back in a plane to do it again.
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No idea.
Only two ways I saw someone lose jump status:
- assigned to a non airborne unit
- refuse to jump (inthink they lost their wings.)
Never saw a situation like yours.
Only two ways I saw someone lose jump status:
- assigned to a non airborne unit
- refuse to jump (inthink they lost their wings.)
Never saw a situation like yours.
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