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The irony of a Democrat Congressman predicting militancy by illegal aliens in the US during the much hyped White House Summit on Violent Extremism. Granted the congressman is specifically pointing to votes, voting, and voter registration, but words have meaning, and I'm sure he chose his words purposefully. Why say "militancy" instead of "activity" or "activism?"
Our country is accepting thousands of criminals from Latin America into our cities and neighborhoods continuing their criminal ways. Our own citizens riot at any real or perceived slight, are provoked to violence by so-called civil rights leaders, and have their actions legitimized in the media. Groups like New Black Panther openly advocate killing people they don't like. Our government seems not only to be unwilling to prosecute these criminals, but even condone and encourage it by either their inaction or by publicly taking their side.
The number of people purchasing firearms has skyrocketed, as has the demand for concealed carry licenses. People are arming themselves where they legally can. Are we, as a society, prepared to deal with groups of people who think that violence is the answer to getting their way? How do we hold our government accountable? Is the best we can do to simply take measures to protect ourselves and our family while we watch these groups run amok? I know I've posed a lot of questions, but I was hoping to start some discussion.
Our country is accepting thousands of criminals from Latin America into our cities and neighborhoods continuing their criminal ways. Our own citizens riot at any real or perceived slight, are provoked to violence by so-called civil rights leaders, and have their actions legitimized in the media. Groups like New Black Panther openly advocate killing people they don't like. Our government seems not only to be unwilling to prosecute these criminals, but even condone and encourage it by either their inaction or by publicly taking their side.
The number of people purchasing firearms has skyrocketed, as has the demand for concealed carry licenses. People are arming themselves where they legally can. Are we, as a society, prepared to deal with groups of people who think that violence is the answer to getting their way? How do we hold our government accountable? Is the best we can do to simply take measures to protect ourselves and our family while we watch these groups run amok? I know I've posed a lot of questions, but I was hoping to start some discussion.
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What should we expect when the President of the United States and the Attorney General violate the law and refuse to enforce the laws?
Encouraging illegal immigration is just another liberal ideology that is causing the ruination of our country. It undermines the rule of law.
Our country is led by the most corrupt, racist, immoral and divisive administration in our history.
Encouraging illegal immigration is just another liberal ideology that is causing the ruination of our country. It undermines the rule of law.
Our country is led by the most corrupt, racist, immoral and divisive administration in our history.
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MAJ Terry LaFrance
Aw crap, I posted the wrong link. That one is all jacked up. Here's the one I meant to post:
http://mostcorrupt.com/Most-Corrupt-Administrations.html
http://mostcorrupt.com/Most-Corrupt-Administrations.html
Most corrupt administration in U.S. historyMost Corrupt Administrations
Most corrupt administration in U.S. history, Presidential Scandals--Grant, Harding, Nixon, Bush
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
MAJ Terry LaFrance
Come on... I'm on Candid Camera or Punked or something, right? You were better off posting the first article, as it had much more credibility. The new one you posted was from a left wing rag whose purpose was to slam George Bush. Keating is a liberal buffoon. In addition, the web site is dated 2010. Again, Obama is still scoring his corruption points, not that Keating would actually recognize any of them. The scandals and corruption of the Obama administration makes the ones cited for Bush pale in comparison.
Come on... I'm on Candid Camera or Punked or something, right? You were better off posting the first article, as it had much more credibility. The new one you posted was from a left wing rag whose purpose was to slam George Bush. Keating is a liberal buffoon. In addition, the web site is dated 2010. Again, Obama is still scoring his corruption points, not that Keating would actually recognize any of them. The scandals and corruption of the Obama administration makes the ones cited for Bush pale in comparison.
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MAJ Terry LaFrance
LOL You say he's the most corrupt, but then you say he's not done. If he's not done then are you saying he's not YET the most corrupt? Which way do you want it? If he's the most corrupt then why mention it? He can't be more than "most". So either he stacks up now at this point in his administration as most and that's that or he's still got two years to get there. Also, what is your criteria? Number of staff convicted of crimes? Accused? Investigated and cleared? Forget Bush, Nixon and Harding are still tops.
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
MAJ Terry LaFrance
Just because he is still racking up his corrupt points does not mean that he can't already be the most corrupt. Case in point... I am an Alabama Crimson Tide fan. They hold the record for the most National Championships (15), however, as they are still an active team, they may rack up several more in the coming years. That does not mean that they are not already the team with the most championships. They are, but they might continue to get more.
My criteria? Obamacare lies; Benghazi; IRS; NSA spying; Fast and Furious; contempt for the Constitution and the law; overt racism; illegal Executive Orders; abuse of authority; and on and on and on... And, while we are at it, why did he deem it necessary to seal all his personal records if he has nothing to hide in his background?
When all is said and done and history looks at his presidency without the liberal spin and protectors, the fact will clearly reflect that his administration was the most inept, racist, divisive, immoral and corrupt in the history of our country.
It is a shame that the first Black president has turned out to be such a failure. There was so much hope that he would unite our country. He has, instead, divided it more than it has ever been divided since the Civil War and, the real shame/tragedy of it is that he is apparently doing it on purpose.
I know that many do not share my belief, and that is OK, but many do, and that number keeps growing every day.
Just because he is still racking up his corrupt points does not mean that he can't already be the most corrupt. Case in point... I am an Alabama Crimson Tide fan. They hold the record for the most National Championships (15), however, as they are still an active team, they may rack up several more in the coming years. That does not mean that they are not already the team with the most championships. They are, but they might continue to get more.
My criteria? Obamacare lies; Benghazi; IRS; NSA spying; Fast and Furious; contempt for the Constitution and the law; overt racism; illegal Executive Orders; abuse of authority; and on and on and on... And, while we are at it, why did he deem it necessary to seal all his personal records if he has nothing to hide in his background?
When all is said and done and history looks at his presidency without the liberal spin and protectors, the fact will clearly reflect that his administration was the most inept, racist, divisive, immoral and corrupt in the history of our country.
It is a shame that the first Black president has turned out to be such a failure. There was so much hope that he would unite our country. He has, instead, divided it more than it has ever been divided since the Civil War and, the real shame/tragedy of it is that he is apparently doing it on purpose.
I know that many do not share my belief, and that is OK, but many do, and that number keeps growing every day.
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I think it's more of a perception of the rise of violence due to media coverage. The FBI statistics show the opposite trend:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/violentcrimemain_final
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/violentcrimemain_final
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SFC Jeff L.
Your report doesn't necessarily address the bigger picture. It only compiles stats for four crimes, but leaves out things like what we witness in Missouri and New York with the destruction of property writ large. It also ignores the other part of the equation regarding the excusing, condoning, and failure to prosecute that fosters a sense of security in the perpetrators that their actions are not only acceptable, but normal.
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SFC Jeff L.
True enough, but violent, aggressive behavior is still what it is. If you communicate to the criminal element that it's ok to commit property crime through your unwillingness to prosecute it, then what's next for them. Classic Chamberlain vs Germany mentality, I think. Would you still feel the same if it was your small business that was destroyed along with all the hard work and debt it represented? I'm sure you would be grateful for your life having been spared, but would it still sting? Does that lessen the seriousness for you personally? Remember that all those numbers represent individual people.
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CW4 Guy Butler
Property crime rates
Down 22% from 2004.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/property-crime/property-crime-topic-page/propertycrimemain_final
Down 22% from 2004.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/property-crime/property-crime-topic-page/propertycrimemain_final
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Violence is actually decreasing. Maybe the 24 hour news cycle is spinning up increased coverage of violence/potential violence that does happen.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/violentcrimemain_final
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/violentcrimemain_final
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2LT (Join to see)
SFC Jeff L. you keep dismissing all of the facts everyone presents. Yet you do not present an accurate or fact based statistics yourself?
Your argument is weak.
Your argument is weak.
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SFC Jeff L.
2LT (Join to see) The only statistical claim I made in the original post was about the increase in concealed carry applications and the desire of citizens to arm themselves in response to what appears to be a trend toward lawlessness. I substantiated that in another post here with an excerpt from Crime Prevention Research Center report dated 9 July 2014. I don't mean to dismiss facts, only to point out that I was talking about something somewhat different. King Minister Samir Shabazz of the NBPP saying that they need to kill some crackers and kill their babies isn't going to get reported in crime statistics because it's protected free speech, but it is indicative of a mindset that appeals to many people that violence is acceptable and even expected in some cases. The same is true of the NBPP standing outisde a polling place threatening voters. That simply wasn't prosecuted by the DOJ. Most of the criminals in Ferguson and New York riots and Occupy movement simply were not prosecuted, but are indicative of an attitude of both agression and leniency. Some of the things I mentioned both here and in the original post aren't going to be reflected in the crime statistics because speech is still free, and our administration is very selective as to what laws they choose to enforce, and upon whom.
You can argue that it isn't violence that is rising, but it is a rise in awareness with the 24 hour news cycle and instant information with the internet. Those things are true, but there remains what seems, even to a casual observer, a tendency for people to justify aggressive or violent behavior.
You can argue that it isn't violence that is rising, but it is a rise in awareness with the 24 hour news cycle and instant information with the internet. Those things are true, but there remains what seems, even to a casual observer, a tendency for people to justify aggressive or violent behavior.
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Capt Richard I P.
SFC Jeff L. Violent speech is not violence. Our laws are based on deeds, not words.
By the way, I don't like people who speak violently, I tend to avoid them and I'm one of the more vigilant people I know in preparing to meet force with force. I fully endorse individuals preparing to do so. It is the inherent right and responsibility of every individual to be prepared to defend his/her own life liberty and property. I just oppose using governmental resources for anything but response to actions.
By the way, I don't like people who speak violently, I tend to avoid them and I'm one of the more vigilant people I know in preparing to meet force with force. I fully endorse individuals preparing to do so. It is the inherent right and responsibility of every individual to be prepared to defend his/her own life liberty and property. I just oppose using governmental resources for anything but response to actions.
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