Posted on Feb 16, 2017
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If the man at the top may be unstable - then the White House is likely to exhibit some instability - as well as some efforts by the White House staff - who are normal infighters - to undermine and replace the man at the top. The problem, however, is how to accomplish regime change (the replacement of a mentally unstable incumbent with another member of the ruling political party) within the very strict confines of the United States Constitution - and within the constraint of maintaining the full faith and confidence of the citizens. Time to bring Mike Pence up to bat.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mental-health-new-york-times-incapable-being-president-warning-open-letter-a7578831.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/opinion/mental-health-professionals-warn-about-trump.html

http://www.lancedodes.com/new-york-times-letter
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PO3 John Clausen
Where were you Sandy over the last eight years as a deceitful Marxist did everything in his power to unravel our country, our unity and our financial strength? You desperately need to broaden your library and stop relying on the Soros funded media... I suggest The Drudge Report each morning with your coffee...
SPC Brian Stephens
Not sure what you are getting at but we just came out of eight years of an immature and unstable president whose Vice President was senile and was surrounded by lunatics like fiction writer Ben Rhoades who ran our national security apparatus, Susan Rice who would openly lie to protect power and Marie Harf as spokesperson for all of it. Supplemented by leadership who would spy on the people and agencies who would bully the political opposition because our president's leadership was too weak to inspire confidence from the nation and the world. In the end, the only thing that removes a weak leader from power is an election when a VP like Bidenis too mentally feeble to take control.
MCPO Roger Collins
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Nice summary.
PO3 John Wagner
PO3 John Wagner
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I am not thinking Biden is senile. I think he is old, has lined his pockets enough to suit his needs, and would like to retire. In other words he doesn't give a shit. I think he knew what was going on when he signed up for the Obama team. He figured Vice President was a pretty good gig for an old drunk who might not have pulled off another Senate election. He played the game for profit... and to avoid loss.
Useless baggage when the party was over. Smart enough to get the hell out.
PO2 Richard C.
PO2 Richard C.
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I like the way you mince words, Brian.
MAJ Mob Support
I was not a fan of Obama, I believed he was unqualified for the office. But he was my Commander and Chief. I followed the order to deploy for the fourth time, and I followed the orders he gave without ever questioning his authority.
As a Commissioned Officer, I do not take an oath to the President, but to the United States Constitution.
I am dishearten to see so many Enlisted and Officers, both currently and previously serving in our military defaming a sitting President.
You, you are the domestic enemy our founding fathers warned us about. And what I swore an oath to defend against.
I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
PO3 John Wagner
PO3 John Wagner
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Thank you. That is always an oath which is wonderful to hear.
I don't care what enlisted say, I was one once and as a rule most are uneducated kids and a product of their time.
I almost never see senior NCO's talking too much s***. Bragging and talking big..just like old junior NCO's. (One must always include self deprecation lest others take offense. :-) ).
I really don't understand it when I hear former or worse currently serving officers defaming and slandering a sitting President.
I looked up to them as a young man. I want the young men and women currently serving to have a mature and educated example to follow. So , as you said Captain, it disappoints me significantly that any man or woman who has taken that oath might speak in a manner which degrades its meaning and message.
PO2 Richard C.
PO2 Richard C.
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I have a T-shirt with part of that oath on the back and the statement that I still consider myself bound by that oath. I had a woman ask me once if I really believed I was still bound now that I an out. My response was "my hand was not on a Bible when I took it, but my heart was." She smiled, nodded and thanked me for my service. I couldn't stand Obama, but would have respected the office and his position as CinC if I was still active. I don't understand the current crap by SM's either.
MAJ Mob Support
Yes, Obama was a narcissistic unqualified joke. He will go down in history as being the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people.
Now President Trump is our Commander and Chief, and deserves the respect that goes with the office.
SGT George Smith
I Don't trust any politician. Every person running for office says the same thing. Doesn't matter what party.
MAJ Pilot
People in the military today are too young to remember the transition from Jimmy Carter to Ronald Reagan. President Carter appeased the Soviet Union, allowing it to grow stronger. He failed to support the Shah of Iran, creating the environment for contemporary Islamic Jihadism. His 'environmental friendly' policies severely damaged US industry and the economy. When President Reagan was elected the Democrat Party and the communist propagandists in the media said he would start WW3. Just the opposite happened. America gained respect, the Soviet Union was broken up, the jihadists were pushed back, and the economy improved. Clearly, 1LT Annala and those that agree with her are victims of the communist propaganda that is taught in our schools & perpetuated in the media. Unfortunately, the Democrat party has also embraced communism (socialism, etc), giving it legitimacy, even though historically it has always failed as a system of government. 1LT Annala should spend some time studying history so she can properly respond to the seditious propagandists who tirelessly work to destroy America, and her system of government which has proven to be the best that the world has ever known.
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SPC Randy Torgerson - My former colleagues may tell you I am not always p.c. - and agency colleagues of an age to know - will tell you that in my prime many regarded my operational predilections as rather far to the right of Atilla The Hun. All that said, I have nothing but kindness in my heart for the members of this discussion group - and I will be the first to admit I have substantially mellowed with age. Warmest Regards, Sandy :)
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SPC Randy Torgerson - What a rambling screed of nonsensical rubbish. You say you respect her and haven't said anything belittling her, then say you've only said she's "off her rocker." Nice. You said I'm loud in her defense and I don't know you. You've been very loud in your nasty comments about her, and I've learned enough about what you think to know how wrong your opinions about her are in this conversation. That is, after all, what we're talking about, right? Your little twist about she was in Vietnam and so was Hanoi Jane, the Communist Traitor Bitch, was a very cute psychological manipulation, but it doesn't play. They were in different Vietnams - Hanoi Jane was in North Vietnam; Sandy was in South Vietnam. Hanoi Jane was giving aid and comfort to the enemy; Sandy was giving aid and comfort to wounded American Soldiers. Big differences those. I don't need to worry about myself or Sandy. I wasn't trying to be some knight coming in to protect her - as you said, she doesn't need that. I was simply speaking up for a friend who had two of you (here and many more in other threads) giving her a public beating simply for asking a question and expressing her thoughts. So kindly BTFO and chill.
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SGM (Join to see) - Let's not argue about my feelings or what people say about me here. What matters to me is what my friends, family, and the few people who know where and what I have done with my life for others - not what some random guy on a website thinks - beyond the admirable fact he is thinking and writing anything at all about something that matters to him - and not just living a wasted life of complete anonymity and obscurity. His feeble digital footprints will live on in history for a millennia. Warmest Regards, Sandy :)
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SPC Randy Torgerson
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SGM (Join to see) - I explained myself already. People here know what I've said. I'm not the one twisting things. I am pretty chill :)
PO1 Kevin Dougherty
First of all, the question is not really valid as it is based upon an assumption, not a proven fact. I would suggest the mentally ill ones who are rioting in the streets for no logical reason, rejecting nominees that are well qualified simply because of who nominated them or marching about in giant vaginas. None of that is what a reasonable person would consider rational behavior.

But let us suppose for a moment, that the president IS indeed mentally ill. First, we have had as bad or worse and survived. But suppose action was needed, there is no need to assess the mechanism, the mechanism is in place, clearly outlined in Article I sections 2 and 3, Article II sections 2 and 4. Charges must be set forth in the House, and tried in the Senate, action is limited to censure or removal from office. Any action outside of those parameters would be a clear violation of the Constitution. Pretty simple and straight forward really.
MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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Good tutorial and on the mark with just who has mental issues.
MAJ Tmt Leader
How many more anti-trump questions are you going to make? Whatever feelings you have for trump, I can guarantee I had 1000 time more negative feelings for Obama. I laugh at the fact that you are actively undermining your boss, but, I would be willing to bet, you would be the first to jump in the ass if one of your subordinates did this to you.
You are an officer in the US military, start acting like it.
SPC Byron Skinner
Sp4 Byron Skinner Not so quick. First off I doubt if you would find any compeniant Healthcare Professionals who would make such a deliberation based on what we know. To prove that a President is Mentally incapable of performing his job is a long process both medical and legal. I would imagine that it would go all the way to the supreme court. The 25th. Constitutional Amendment Section 4 is rather ambitious how a President's ability to serve can be determined. The 25 Amendment was written on the assumption of injury or illness not mental ability to function. There is only one Doctor in the current cabinet, Ben Carlson, a Neurosurgeon. The Presidents behavior has not really noticeably changed since the election. Sorry guys you got what you voted for.
CDR Lewis C Larson
A leader who puts America first, a leader who wants to stop illegal immigration? And you reference NYT? All that shows your true colors.

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